Kerri Lick – Texas Americana & R&B Artist

[Music] Lo, [Applause] [Music] hearts get broke, tables turning love. So, welcome back to the Rugged Revival podcast. We are home of the UK's country, Americana, and Roots Music Community. I'm TJ, your host. I'm here again with my mate Ronnie. He's my trusted sidekick. So, he's the Penfold to my danger mouse, the Rodney to my Dell boy, the sloth to my chunk. Although, I think that one's probably more of a insult to me at that point. Um, but anyway, I think it's we've been off for a couple of weeks and uh it's probably a good reminder just to tell everyone that we are the go-to platform uh that supports independent and emerging artists across the world. Uh so, we've had people from America, UK, and even Australia uh so far, which has been fantastic. Uh but today uh we are joined uh by Texas singer songwriter Kerry Lick. Uh and I know on the recent promo uh post uh our mutual podcast friend and your good friend uh and former Rashambo master may I add because we beat her badly. Uh Miss Presley refer to you as her the queen herself I think was the the word she used. So would you like us to call you her majesty or will Kerry just do fine? you know, uh, Carrie will do just fine. Just sometimes, uh, you know, she's so sweet. I think it just takes a queen and no one for sure. Look, welcome to the rugged revival, Kerry. Um, tell us how you are. What you been up to lately? I've been just busy putting out some new music. Um, trying to uh get ready for a tour that actually Presley and I are doing together. Um, and just gearing up for a new album in August. And so that's just it's been keeping me super busy. Super exciting stuff. So I think that's a good segue because what we what you normally do when guests come on is just uh allow you to introduce yourself in your own words. So we can go and read your Spotify bio, but I think it's a bit snail if I I just read it. So tell tell listeners who you are um and perhaps how you would describe your music in your own words. Well, I like to say that it's a little it's a little honky tonk. It's a little swamp. It's like a little honky swamp. Um I have I come from a small Texas town and so the honky tonk roots just inevitably come through. Um but I fell in love with blues music when I started actually performing and so um you know somehow the blues and soul gets mixed in there. And so it's to me it's just like I'm just like a frog in the swamp playing my songs, you know, like this honky swamp music is what I would call what I'm doing. Um, love it. And you're wearing green today, so uh goes with the theme. I literally I live like I can look out my window and see the river. Uh I live in a town called Granberry and the Brazis River. It's which is one of the last wild rivers in America. Um it's by that I mean it's not like very damned up and and things like that. Um, it's just like literally outside my window. So, I I really do resonate as a frog. Well, I love it. And again, welcome to the show. Uh, and good chance to hand over to Ronnie because Ronnie likes to kick things off with the question. So, over to I do. It's my favorite part. It's my favorite part. Carrie, your majesty, should I say. Um, your talent is insane. Uh, and welcome to the Ruger Revival podcast. Such a pleasure to meet you and to have you on. TJ has been like a squirrel jumping on the trampoline to have you on. So, um he's he's been very very excited. Uh and this is the first of the Ruger Revival uh refreshes. So, uh I hope you like the new look. Uh we're getting there. There's going to be a few more refreshes coming up, but anyway, I've loved all the stuff you are putting out on Instagram and your social media stuff. It looks nice. And I mean, I find I discovered you guys through Presley um and everything that she put out with you guys and I was like, man, those guys look awesome. Well, thank you for that. Thank you very much. It's much appreciated. So, um Carrie, to start off with, uh as we're very shy on Rugger Revival, I love to ask our artists some questions about their background. Um, and I know I've mixed it up in the last couple of podcasts because I took some inspiration from our good friend and our guest Daniel Kaine, uh, who was on the last podcast, um, a couple of podcasts ago, actually, whenever it was couple. Um, so Kerry, if your life were a documentary, what would we see in the opening scenes? Where did you grow up? And what would we see? Uh, and who were the characters in your early years? feel like it would be like me and my pawpaw like driving into a fishing hole and like um there's some like moral haggard on the radio and we pull up and I just he sits on a five gallon bucket and I sit on the ground next to him catching grasshoppers. That's what the first opening scene would be. Brilliant. He's a dream. Yeah. I mean, well, that's just my papa took me a lot of places and he's the first person that I saw play the guitar and and and sing songs and so um he he passed away when I was probably eight. Uh and I didn't really pick up a guitar until I was about 15 or 16. Um and um I always just I I picked it up because of him. Amazing. So, what tell us about your journey? Tell us about your travels. What what happened all all the all the way through sort of 15 16? Well, I I picked up a guitar cuz I was a kind of a I wouldn't say I was a bad teenager, but I got in trouble a lot. My parents were kind I was the oldest. So, you know, the they're always strictest on the oldest. Uh and so I got grounded a lot. And uh the neighbor had a couple guitars and I would kind of peek over the fence at him and uh he caught me one day and he asked me if I would like to borrow one and so he let me borrow it and he gave me a book and uh started playing and then I didn't really start getting brave enough to I mean I learned three chords and I wrote a song cuz I've been writing songs since I was really really small in grade school. I just kept them in a binder. I didn't have a instrument to play them to. Uh, but so I I got a guitar, I learned three chords, I wrote a song. All the probably first hundred songs I wrote were awful. Uh, but when I was in college, I finally got the guts to sit in the corner of a a bar and play them. Uh, I I learned 10 songs and I played those 10 songs over and over again, three times through because it's, you know, three-hour set. But I went to college in Alpine, which is really far west Texas, like big band area. Um, and while I was in college, I saw James Mc Merryury play at this venue called uh the Railroad Blues. Until then, I had never seen anybody kind of pursuing a folk music career. you know, I'd seen, you know, big arena artists. Um, and then like, you know, people who did it as a hobby, but not really like people who made a decent living and were independent and were just like doing like kind of a that kind of thing that James and Merry was doing. And when I saw him doing it, I was like, that's what I want to do. Um, and so I uh decided to just kind of keep working at the craft. And then when I moved to Denver in my uh mid20s, I decided to actually hire an agent and started playing the blues and uh because that's what was in Denver. I mean, there's all kinds of stuff in Denver, but that was like the easiest thing I could tap into. Um and then I moved back to Texas in 2020, recorded a record. That was my first record. I did that in Abene. Then I had my second child and so that kind of slowed things down a bit um until this last year I went and recorded again a second record and this is where we're at now trying to get that record out and you're living the dream so far. It's two years. I love I have a lot of friends that like to quote that Zayn Williams song overnight success. like, you know, it they've seen me work at it for 10 plus years and just find, you know, like it's nice to like, I don't know, get get it out there finally and and be playing shows that I want to play and collaborating with people I want to collaborate with. And that feels like the dream when I'm actually getting to to do things with other artists and folks like yourself who love the industry. And like it just feels like I'm actually can call myself what I've been wanting to call myself when I get to do things with people like y'all and other artists. And do you know I've I've watched so much of your material online on YouTube and everything and and you're such a natural when you when you're sort of coming into into podcast and if you come into you know when you're playing live I've watched some of your sets that they're just awesome. Your talent is incredible. Um so thank you very much for for sharing that with me. Um, but there's a there's a couple of questions I just want to I just want to ask you coming off of that. If someone was walking a similar path to you, what would what would you want them to hear? What would you advise them to do if they were to to go through the same path as you? Say that again, the first part. So, say say if someone was walking in a similar path to you, a sim advice would you give them? Yeah. would if they're finding a bit of a struggle, if they're if they really want to do what they want to do, sing music, if they want to create music, what's the sort of path of advice that you would give them about that path? Never stop. You know, the path is not one kind of direction. It goes left and right and sometimes even backwards. Um, and just, you know, if you if you really want it and sometimes you don't even want it, but you can't help it, just stay on just stay on the path. Um, you know, I never I always wanted to pursue music. Um, I, you know, as a little girl, I envisioned, you know, like I would go to Nashville and stuff like that, but, you know, life has like all these different twists and turns and I got married and I had two children and I and I love that part of my path. Um, but as for for parents, I think it's a little bit different how you approach it. And so I feel like that's who I would the person that I would want to say something to would be that person on the path that I'm on, but that's also like a mom, you know, and just be like, "Hey, like you can still do it. Your kids can still do it with you, you know?" Um it's that's that's kind of what I think I would who I'd want to talk to on this path. That's fantastic. Thank you. Um and just when you were growing up, is there a certain artist that you have seen that has inspired you? Is there certain if you could name a few, what sort of artists do you listen to to growing up? I know you said about Mel Haggard and what have you. So yeah, so I mean there was a lot of Paty Klein in the car. Um but uh I think the first time I got like starruck was watching a documentary and I was it was a Tina Turner documentary and I was like dang she's awesome you know like she just went through it and still just being a rock star out there. So, uh, Tina Turner, uh, Paty Klein, Bonnie Ra, Susan Sedeski. Not until I really got into the blues did I, uh, come across Susan and, um, people like her and Grace Potter. Those those kind of artists really, um, inspired me sonically. Um, but there's artists today that are just like the businessminded artists that really inspire me. Um, and that I see that a lot now in the independent Texas music scene. Um, and just part with artists that are like maybe they don't stay independent, but they were independent for a long time. And um, and their hard work and the entrepreneurialship inspires me. You know, people like Caitlyn Buts, um, Cody Johnson, um, even uh, I mean, even artists like Presley and Shelby Stone and these these are just you have to have an entrepreneurial mindset to do this. And um and that inspires me a lot too. Yeah, I'm I totally agree. And this is, you know, we've some of the people that we've interviewed recently, one being Summer Dean, you know, we're talking to her about the journey she's been through and what she was doing as part of a business and, you know, trying to build that and build a brand as well. You know, it's so difficult, but you're smashing it. Thank you. the whole building a brand, building something that um people resonate with, that you resonate with, you know, that and being consistent with that. That's sometimes um because I feel like I'm all over the place. One day I'm Susan Tedeski, the next day I'm Paty Klein, you know, like I I don't know, you know, it's like hard to decide sometimes, you know, to put or to put yourself in a box. Um and so I feel like that's sometimes a hard thing about branding. Um and but then some people are just so natural with their brand, too. So, you know, like who might say it's really hard? I mean, it's just hard for me. Yeah. And I think going back to the Tina Turner days, I think we've all been there on a Friday night dressing up as Tina Turner trying to sing her songs. You know, we've all we've all been there. Uh TJ most of the time, to be honest, just me in a wig and a too tight of a dress maybe. Yeah, it's a really bad really bad image. It was the legs. Yeah, TJ hasn't got the legs unfortunately. No, at 40 I I lost my my physique, shall we say. I pretty lost it before that to be fair, but uh anyway. Yeah, 18. Um anyway, moving on swiftly. Uh moving on swiftly. So, as you know, uh this show is all about you and your style and what you do, but can you tell us what sets you apart from everyone else in today's music scene? We know. You don't need to tell us, but it's just for all the listeners. I think it's the uh the blues that's just inevitable in there. Um I I didn't even know that I had that in me until um you know I really tried to pursue a career and um I I called a bunch of different booking agents and different people. I called I had a whole spiral. I started writing numbers in and I probably called over 200 people to, you know, book shows and stuff and in Denver, there's so many places in Denver to play and it seemed to be the only people that were calling me back were blues venues and um and blues and related industry people and I was like maybe that's what I do and and I started, you know, uh I don't know, just I think it just comes out naturally. And I think in my scene, I I still love the Texas music scene and I love country music and I love riding with three chords in the truth. Um, but I just can't help but put the blues in there, too. I love that tune. Three cords in the truth. Um, I think that's great. Uh, so just one last question before I hand over to TJ if that's all right. My undercover sources could be completely wrong, but I do believe you had a big announcement recently or it was a big day for you recently a few months ago maybe with the I haven't undercover I don't know something about dresses and walking down an aisle maybe. That's not that's not me. He's I can't believe it. That's my sources. I've been married for 10 years. Oh, let's not start them rumors. That's so funny. Yeah, my husband will be like, "What?" No. Yeah, I'm going to go back and beat my sources up. That's what I'm going to do. Yeah. Raven and I have been married for 10 years and uh just recently we got uh he asked me to renew our vows when we were in Key West. And and so Amazing. We're we've a you know anybody that's in a long-term relationship um and a marriage you know there's ups and downs and ramen and I have definitely been through a lot um so I'm just grateful that we've made it for 10 years. Yeah. Well congratulations for reading your vows and I heard that about my disgusting sources. That's kind of I get to wear a new dress for that you know. So, I would say music related, there's other announcements, but um I don't know about Well, I'll save that for TJ's slot, I reckon, cuz I've got quite a few to go through later. But um honestly, thank you so much for that, and thank you for opening with me. So, much appreciate, TJ. Over to you. Well, that's embarrassing, mate, isn't it, for you? You need to do your research better, I think, when we have our guests on. You're okay. You're okay. Ronnie, you might want to I know you normally he's the world's loudest man, but on this podcast he's a bit quiet. So, would you want to angle your your mic a bit closer to your your mouth, mate? And then uh that Oh, that's better. Yeah. Is it? Yeah. His mic's supposed to be Yeah. I think it just needs to be pointed at though. Yeah. Let's Let's try that. I'm using a I'm using my headphone things. Sorry, I'm using mic. So, uh you know, How's that? Is that better? That's better. Yeah, there we go. Good. Right, we'll cut that one out. Live producing. Yeah, I don't know how to cut things out anymore, so we'll have to Anyway, um yeah, thanks for being on the podcast and it's really interesting to hear about your background. Um like a lot of artists, Gary, so we we first noticed your work through social media because that's the go-to place and uh that's where we kind of deep dive into Spotify, YouTube, and other kind of weird and wonderful platforms that you might be on. So, we became a big fan. I'm a big fan of the blues. That's kind of my background in terms of the music. I like some rock and you know I think if we'll go into kind of your your music and your early kind of um tracks that you released because um it's really interesting that that side of it. Um but we became instant fans and you know some of the um posts that you put out and I think it was on Facebook or maybe Tik Tok um that you were doing songs from the shop clips and uh they were fantastic. So we we love to kind of find music in that that sort of uh sense. So, I think if you if you follow Kerry on Facebook, uh you will see those. And then on a while back, uh this was quite a while back, maybe even last year, we posted I can never say this. Old sw old San Juan. San Juan. Yeah. San Juan. I was close. You're close. Yeah. So, uh we posted on our Tik Tok because it was a it's a fantastic song and um we thought it was worth sharing. Absolutely. So, I'll try not to butcher any more of these um these song titles. That you said that great. You say, but um yeah, let's go into your kind of early music. So, your debut album Baptized was around 2021 if Spotify is correct. So, I mean, we've had a really good listen to that full of blues, really kind of old soul vibe. Um so, yeah, tell us kind of the inspiration and the kind of making of those those early tracks. Yeah. Um, so I I've always been a Susan Sedeski fan and I really loved her first record, Just Won't Burn. And um, I wanted I went into the studio with that record in hand, you know, like I want a record that's like this record. I want an album like this album. Um, and I had a pop, you know, a lot of handful of blue songs in my, you know, in my journal. And I brought it to a friend. Um, I I over at Notion Sound and Clyde, which is like a little studio outside of um, Abalene, and my friend, uh, Jordan Tyler Haynes and another Garrett Brian, they helped me produce that record. And, uh, and, you know, it was it it's an interesting story, honestly. And it it has a lot of um a lot of emotion the story and of the making of this album because um you know I went in to make a record and I made um lifelong connections that I'm still navigating. Um because it turned into uh so during that time my husband and I were separated and uh I uh I I I found myself connected with the my producer Garrett and so my second son comes from the making of that record and uh and I know that wasn't something we planned and uh and so like it was like here's a record, here's this new connection um and and we've navigated oursel through that and then you Of course, like I said, I've been married. My husband and I have made it through for 10 years. So, my husband and I are still still going. Um, but it's just the making when you say the making of that record, it always evokes a lot of emotion for me because I made a blues record and I made a lot of blues in my life as well. And um, and it was it was something I'll never it it has shaped who I am as a a person, as an artist. Um, and uh, you know, it was a lot of it was an experience and I wish I could have had more opportunities to promote that record, you know, but um, you know, I was just figuring a lot of other things out at that time. Um, but it's 10 songs and it's uh, and they're all the blues and I really love the blues and I um, I can't wait to maybe one day make another blues record. But, you know, that's a there's a lot of story there I could go into and I kind of just gave you the cliff notes, which is probably a little bit more than I should have, but I can't help it. I'm I'm an honest person. No, we appreciate it. And, you know, a lot of people that come on the show share kind of stuff that's really personal to them. So, I'm glad you feel comfortable speaking to us in that sense and giving us the kind of like say the cliff notes and the background to to how that came about. So, uh yeah, I don't know if I want to share that. I'm like, well, you know, like uh so like Garrett and I, you know, it's just a hard thing to navigate. He's a musician in the world in this industry and um and you know, we don't ever want to um professionally um you know, say anything wrong about each other, but um you know, it's just navigating that is all it's been hard. And um and when I talk about that album, I mean, I think that's maybe why I don't give that album a lot of love. Um, it's because it's connected to such a hard time in my life. Yeah. But it's a great album. When I listen to it, I love it and I know that, you know, I know that it's resonated with a lot of people um all over the place. Look, we we love it. You know, regardless of the background, it's a fantastic record and you know, you mentioned Susan Tadeshi, you know, I've been listening to her for quite some time and you know, the Derek Trucks kind of connection and it's amazing, you know. Yeah, we went we recorded it all live. Um we just all went in one room, pressed record. Um and tracked the whole thing, all 10 songs in three days. Um and and I just feel like it's just honest blues, you know? Um until then, I was just I felt like I was pretending to be a blues artist. And cuz you'll go to like blues events or just festivals or other shows and you'll see other blues artists and you're like, "Oh, that that's that's what I'm trying to do." you know, I can never stand next to Susan Sedeski and be like, "Yeah, I'm a blues artist, you know, but um I might try though." You've definitely, you know, uh you're you're up there in our eyes, honestly. It's uh it's fantastic. But um so yeah, I mean some of the if I would say some of the newer blues artists that I've heard over the last five years particularly, maybe even 10 years, uh the best ones have been female artists, funny enough. So that's quite interesting. Do do you see a lot of blu female blues artists out on the road? What in what you do? Um, so around here in like Fort Worth and Dallas, you know, there's a few that stand out to me. Ali Vendable and um, you know, I see Samantha Fish comes through our area a lot. Um, but I seem to be more tied into a kind of like a rock, red dirt, country circuit. And so when I go out and play, I get kind of I'm seeing more of those artists. Um, but I would love to see more blues. I'd like to be on more blues bills. You know, it's been a while since I've done um like some Montana blues festivals and Florida blues festivals, but lately I found myself on a lot of country music festivals. Cool. That's nothing wrong with that. I mean, Texas got amazing scenes. It's diverse for sure. It It is. It's probably one of the most diverse scenes I' I've kind of seen. um um since we've been doing the podcast and I suppose that leaves I'm going to skip a few questions and then go back to a few because you know I make it up as I go along but uh I I'm really interested about the Texas music scene. So in terms of you kind of experiences playing live um so when did you first start kind of hitting this scene early days and what what did that look like for you? Well, like I said, I was in Alpine, Texas, which is far west Texas, like uh Big Bends area and uh they had a couple little venues there when I went I was going to college out there. And so that's where I started. Um and then I moved to Stevenville, Texas, which is just another a music hub for um Texas. A lot of artists come out of there. Um, and so I started playing um just open mics and um wherever like they would book a nobody artists at that time and uh and then I kind of um got connected with the Larry Joe Taylor Music Festival which is also out of Stevenville um and did a couple of their songwriter showcases and that really started to kind of um build my community and my relationship with other artists and other venues and um that's kind of that festival in its own self has opened a lot of doors for me. Yeah, it's um I mean quite a few Texas artists that we speak to, Presley included, um I think Jared Morris uh won the LTJ uh contest a few years back and it like you say, it seems to nurture talent um in Texas and and it's a a fantastic way to break through and and to get noticed. So, uh yes, we'd love to we'd love to go to one of those. effect. Yeah, Larry Joe and the team over there, Martha, all of them, they really do create a space for young songwriters, not just like age- wise, just as like someone new to this the scene. Um, they it just gives them a space to to be a songwriter and to showcase themselves and to meet other songwriters. Um, and and they're just you would love it. You guys, it seems like, you know, I see who y'all have been interviewing and who you've enjoyed having on the show. I just feel like you would love the showcase itself um because it's very much a intimate listening experience. The festival is so much fun and it's a huge party and it goes on for a week. Um but the showcase itself is right before the festival and I think y'all would enjoy that. We're doing both Ronnie. Get your get your get your mud boo. Yeah, bring a penicellin shot. Can we party for a week now though? That's the question. You know, we're pretty old. Um, I'll give it a go. Um, yeah, I'll give it a good go. Why not? Um, well, let's go back to to to your music. So, we talked about your first album and I think right at the start you talked about kind of a slight hiatus through through raising your family um and then you you returned with an absolute bang um with some releases last year and a few this year. So, do you want to talk us through, you know, because for me that's a very different sound. It's very more red dirt americana uh type feel to to the track. So yeah, talk to us about that. So last year I just I wanted I just I was just itching to get back into the studio and I wanted to just, you know, kind of get back on the horse, if you will, because after baptized, I just felt like I got knocked off the horse. Um, and um, and so I had these songs that were just kind of really a reflection of what I was going through and I, you know, the project was called Waves, which I never really released Waves. I still have it. Um, I've been holding on to it. I don't know what I'm going to do with it. Um, but it's, you know, it was these collections of songs that, um, you know, were just kind of us coming back to each other and just kind of, I don't know, something about the water and and my husband and I had gone to San Juan for our our 10 years later honeymoon. Um, and so Old San Juan and El Mosquito and um, those songs all kind of came from that one trip to Puerto Rico. Um, and they just they were beachy songs and I know they didn't really fit the the blues stuff, but um I don't I've never really wanted to put myself in a box either. Um, so that's I recorded those with Pat Mansky at um the zone and I had a lot of fun doing it and you know I just I just wanted I just wanted to keep doing it you know and I didn't so that was that was those four songs. It's just like let's just keep going. Um, and then this year I went in earlier in the year and recorded 10 new songs. Um, and this was more um I was trying to this was more just getting into um this the brand I talked about honky swamp music. Um trying to pull from my blues, pull from the the country music that I love and the songwriting that I love to do. Um, and and you know, I felt like these 10 songs were really actually, you know, songwriter songs and um, and there's blues and there's rock and there's southern rock. It's like Lady Skard, if you will, you know, like, you know, there was a little bit of all of it. Um, and you know, they thought it feels more red dirt, you know, but that is what red dirt and and Texas music and um, it is. It's just a little rock, a little blues, a little country. Um and and so that's, you know, a good, you know, it would fall into that red dirt world. Um so that's three of them are out. Um the title track of the album comes out in July and then the album actually drops in August and it'll be um it's called Blame It All Me. Um and it's kind of my way of trying to uh turn my music into a little alchemy. That's great. It's um I mean it's it's a great way to kind of define red dirt because there's so many definitions out there of music in general, particularly this scene. Uh we just get a bit lost sometimes in in defining you know what what kind of sound it is. I think people that you know if you're not from this area and you're like what is red dirt music? You know, like for us, I feel like it's, you know, a lot a lot of us come from rural communities and there's not a lot to do but to like load up in a truck or your car or whatever vehicle and like go drive around county roads and, you know, like go to the a back road to the river, a back road to the dance hall, wherever, you know, that's what that's what we do when we're younger because it's not like there's there's not a mall or something like that to go to. Um, and so, you know, like, and what we're listening to is what our parents were listening, you know, like it's a little litter Skard. It's a little um, you know, the Almond Brothers, it's Marshall Tucker Band, and but it's also Marl Hagard and Conway Twitty and and George Stray and, you know, like it's just that country rock blues on on the way to go do something out in the sticks. And that's why I love Texas because it's got a a bit of uh something for everyone, shall we say? Uh that's fantastic. So, so I must say even a bit of Conway 20. Conway 20. Yeah, love a bit of Conway. Me, too. You'll like this next song. Ah, fantastic. So, uh I mean I was looking at um people from Texas or artists from Texas and uh George Jones I didn't realize was from Texas. Ronnie Jones. Yeah, that's from Texas. Awesome. My man ever. Ever. That's a good favorite. No one can compare. No one can compare apparently. Uh so yeah, I mean with Texas I mean if we look at some of the old older artists we've got Street Stevie Rayvon like you say, you know, it's just the whole spectrum. Roland Jennings, George Jones as we just talked about and uh he went like I saying he's coming on the podcast soon. George Ducas. So, uh, you know, some 90s country thrown in there, too. Um, but then you got I got confused. I thought you went George Jones is coming on the podcast. I was like, I don't think Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Hologram. Oh, you know, technology these days. But, uh, yeah, George, that would be crazy. Uh, we can't do that. But, uh, okay. But, yeah, newer artists. I mean, a lot of my my favorite new artists from Texas are going to be like Ryan Bingham, Charlie Crockett, Flatline Calvary, and Whiskey M. So, the list goes on um for for the kind of sheer talent that constantly comes out of of that state. Um but then go back to your your your own music. So, my favorite track this week is Front Seat Fever. So, uh we've been rocking that on the on our wireless, should we say. Thank you. So, this is where we're going to try and use our fancy new platform, Kerry. Okay. Okay. So, do you give us permission to just play a little snippet of of that track? Yeah, absolutely. Thank you. See, podcasters like us, we have to fight against the censorship and the the big wigs who who want to shut us down, but machine ain't going to get us. We're not going to take it. See, Carrie allowed us. So, uh there we go. Uh so, let's play a bit of front seat fever. Let's see if it works. Behind the wheel was a luxur dream where the tail signs are coming down. Well, it was a fever. I got the fever miles. [Music] I had to get some of the uh some of the solo in there otherwise that would just be incredible. That's Niles. Y'all got to you got to listen to some of his music. Yeah. Point us in this direction. There'll be some questions on that at the end. In fact, you know who who we should be listening to. Um but yeah, what a good feelood track that is. I had to get that in there. Uh and I like it as well because it gives it a good nod to to Mickey and the Motorcars as well. Yes, absolutely. Yeah, what good dudes they are. And I was told that they are Texas royalty along with Reckless Curly and the family. They really are. They've inspired so many artists, you know, like there it's hard not to think about Red Dart music and not think about Mickey and the Motorc Cars and Reckless Kelly and Cross Canadian Ragweed, you know, those guys. Those were the guys that we were red dirting around to, if you will, you know, when we were when we were teenagers. Ah, fantastic. Well, it's an exclusive because we've got Mickey Brawn on the show next week. Um, are you serious? Yeah, we got Mickey on. A good friend of ours set that up, Talbo. So, a good shout out to him. Um, but I thought because you love Mickey the Motorcars so much. If if you want to ask Mickey anything at all, what would you like us to put to him? It could be anything. Anything you like. Oh my gosh. Put me on the spot. Um, how many shows can I come open for? I'm on the next tour. Great question. Cam Kerry open for you. There we go. Let's just beat you around the bush. Let's just get it done. We will ask him that. We promise. We will uh make a note of that. But yeah, it's uh it's brilliant. We we love that song, Carrie. It's uh it's a real good finish. Well, we had a lot of It's so funny that you um are It's just a good segue, I guess, because we just um went to his album release at Arland Studios last week or this week. That was Monday. Uh or Sunday. Um but and it was it was just like a t like a classic like awesome studio downtown Austin and and like they were so nice and they you know signed all our vinyls and um you know like I don't it was it just felt so neat and awesome to like sit and and watch them um in the creation process kind if you will. they weren't creating the album, but you know, they're putting it out there and I'm putting music out and it just felt like a full circle moment for me to be like they're celebrating their record while I'm putting out my own record. Um, and then we did a a video for Front Seat Fever where um they were their team sent us a bunch of merch. Um, and so we were able to kind of like came with our merch and in the video and um it's just it's really they're they're a great band. Mickey Braun's an awesome guy and um you know I I bet you're going to have a great interview next week. We can't wait. It was meant to be obviously with your your song and what Mickey and the crew were doing. So uh fantastic. Uh that's brilliant. So, you know, you're not just writing your own songs either. Um you know, as we try and do our research, sometimes we get it wrong. Well, Ronny gets it wrong, you know, when I I did my research. Don't give me that. You've got the same sources as I have. I actually gave you that source to be fair. Yeah. I knew it was wrong. You sabotaged me, you sabotage. Evil little man. So, um, so you're a fantastic songwriter as well, and you you've co-written, uh, and another amazing song that's recently released. So, Wisteria Bouquet, I probably butchered that title as well with uh, you've said everything right. I don't know. You need Don't be so, don't tell him. Just say you've got it all wrong. Well, if you're I might I say it wisteria bokeh, but that's just because I'm from the I'm from the south. So that that's an amazing song with with Presley Hail uh singing that. Um so yeah, and it's been getting a lot of airplay particularly on our favorite radio station, The Ranch. Um which who we love and hopefully they'll notice us one day. Who knows? But uh so yeah, tell us about that song and tell us about your songwriting credentials because uh that needs to be um platform two. Well, that song um Presley and I wrote when we went on tour last year for a Gone Fishing Tour. Um and it was just we're both we were in a songwriting group and each week we had to turn in a song and so here we are on the road needing to turn in our song and it's it seems like a lot of pressure to turn in a song every week but it's all it's a really great tool. um and like exercise for your your songwriting because you get um okay with not turning in a perfect song and uh and so you know we're sitting down to write our what we think are not going to be a perfect song. Um and we both realize we're we're writing about wisteria because it's full in full bloom at the time we're in East Texas. Um, and we look up what wisteria symbolizes and it's the passage of time. And so it just just kind of organically fell out what um the song and you know I had come up with a melody on the or chord progression and her voice just laid over it so beautifully. Um, and so uh I just I'm so glad she decided to record it. Um, and I think she sings it great and it's doing great out there cuz it's a great song and it it's an honest song and I just think when songs are honest that they're um they're universal. Um, so I think uh it could go anywhere. It her all her music is very honest and so I I think it's I think it's got a lot of potential. Um, other absolutely yeah uh I I've done some writing with a friend of mine named Billy Hartman. He's out of Stevenville. Um, and he put a an EP out maybe six or seven months ago called Chalk Tape Mountains. Chalk Mountain Tapes. I said that all mixed up. The Chalk Mountain Tapes. Um, and he put a song on there that we wrote together called um, Catching Fish and Killing Time. And and that's a he's a really great kind of towns band zan um, fingerpicking kind of artist. Um, and and so that's that was a lot of fun. And it's just cool to like write songs that other people think are good enough to record. I think that's um I I feel very like honored to be able to be part of what other people want to record. Um, and I think a lot of those relationships, like we said earlier, just stemmed from u hanging the Larry Joe Taylor songwriter showcase. It's how I met Presley. Um, I met Billy and Stevenville. And you know, I think it's just mostly just reach wanting to write and wanting to write with other people that um I don't know like that's just um it leads it leads to songs. It leads to good songs and hopefully people record them. Definitely. Yeah. Just just get writing I think is the is the key to that. I know it sounds just right. Just write just see what comes out. And I suppose, you know, with the some of the songs that you write, do you is it a case where you just don't hear yourself singing it yourself and perhaps you've got someone else in mind like Preszley that actually that would fit better in in that sense and that's how it might come about. Yeah, I've done a couple a couple like that and they haven't been recorded, but I really I have a song that I want for Shelby Stone. Um, and I've I She's She's just a rock and roll badass. And so, um, there's a couple songs like that I've written that I want to uh that I you know, like I hear other people singing and I and I have a friend of mine, uh, Mus Gillum, he wrote co-wrote two songs on on the album and he sent me some songs that he wrote that, you know, I I hope to do something with in the future. Um, but I think when you start writing stuff down and it gets honest, other people just can't help to want to be honest with you. Yeah, it's infectious, isn't it? And uh yeah, that's fantastic. So, go going a bit forward then. So, we've got um Fronty Fever, which we've just played and I think Felicia was uh released just before that. So, you you've released a few in a go. So, so perhaps if we play a little bit of that first and then we'll Felicia. talk about that if that's okay. So, let's go. [Music] Me to you every single night. [Music] [Applause] [Music] So, that's Felicia. What a cool song that is. I wish we could sing like that. That would be, you know, amazing. Isn't it just amazing though, listening to yourself, you're on a podcast now. I know it still baffles me, but you're on a podcast now and we get to we get to listen to you singing who's sitting right in front of us. It's amazing. I love it. I love that. I love that. Um, you guys love the music and want to, you know, promote it the way you do. So, thanks for having me. No worries. We're trying to do a professional job. Um, so we are fine. It always goes wrong, but we are. We have fun. So, we love that song as well. And you know, you touched upon a minute ago with Honky Swamp and we've had some other artists. And I think we need to start a rugged revival dictionary with all of these terminologies. Yeah, we do. Yeah, we do. There's so many. I mean, we got Melody Medicine, we've got Y alternative was a new one that I heard through uh Daniel Kaine. So, yeah, I think I think we'll we'll start that. We'll add to it and then artists can, you know, give us a new term. How about that? vocabulary test at the end of the podcast. Yeah, we'll fail. Don't worry. It's right. Yeah. Excuse me. So, um So, yeah, I think I' I've taken a lot of your time. I'm going to pass over to Ronnie, so I know he's been burning to ask a lot of questions. I'm really glad you like Felicia, though. Thank you. That's awesome. It's a great song. Enjoy it. He's awesome. It is awesome. hopefully, you know, that that song is uh I was sitting right here in this in this uh chair when I started to write it because um I wasn't trying not to write songs because it was on recording the the album that I'm working on that I put that song on. Um and I said if I write something, I'm going to love it and I'm going to want to record that, you know, because you always love the last song you wrote the most. Um, and I started writing that and I sent it to my friend, my manager, and she was she was like, "Yeah, see, you you need to be writing stuff down." And, uh, and so I finished it and, um, it's just a silly song, but I just love it, too. Yeah. It's it's a story, isn't it? Like everything else, it's uh, how how you kind of tell those stories within the songs, and I think that's why your music resonates with people. Thanks. So, uh, hopefully I've, um, mended my microphone issue, so you can actually hear me now. I can hear you. Fingers crossed. Wonderful. Thank you. So, I'm just going to go back to, uh, you mentioned a song earlier called El Mosquito. And, um, it was just something, this is just completely off the topic now, but I was listening to that song and I thought, "Oh my god, wouldn't it be amazing if you mix that song, parts of it, with Seven Spanish Angels with a bit of Willie and a bit of um, it has that kind of Ray Charles as well." Oh my god, that would be amazing. I'm going to do it one day and completely. It's going to sound great. It's going to sound great. We've got to do it. I think that would go really cool together. I agree. I wrote with uh after that Puerto Rico trip um and I had a whole lot of family in Cabo Rojo that I had never met before and so we went to Cabo Rojo um to meet those that part of my family and I found out about um Roberto Compressi who was the pirate that sailed El Mosquito. He didn't live very long but he was very good at his piracy. Yeah. So he there's a lot of songs actually about him. I didn't realize that. I didn't I didn't even know that. I just wanted to write a a kind of Marty Robbins kind of vibe song. And yeah, uh and I was like, man, let's let's do it and make it a pirate song. I love it. It's amazing. It's such a great song. Don't take any songwriting suggestions off Ronnie, though. He has absolutely no clue what he's talking about. So, uh Marty Robbins. Love a bit of Marty Robbins, though. But anyway, anyway, anyway, talk for yourself. Um, right. So, I'm going to go into a question now about um our playlist. So, the question is we always say we started a playlist. We started this playlist about a year ago. Uh, and we've added all of our artist songs that we've had on. We've added two of their songs that they decide would show them off. Uh, so that our listeners can go and listen to you and and really showcase your talent and showcase what you do. So, what two songs out of your whole list would you choose to put on that playlist for the Rugger Revival? Well, I would say the next song that I'm about to release is very much um a good summary of the artist that I am because it's soul, it's blues, it's country. It's kind of got like a Conway titties tw I said Conway titty Conway Twitty kind of uh slow hands um kind of energy to it. Um and so when that comes out I would love for you to put that one on there. Um and then so excited to hear that. Maybe uh you know something off the Baptized album like The Good Way or something like that because that really does um bring the blues in. The Good Way has got some serious vibes. That is when I listened to it, I went. It's so good. That's how good it is. Did you make It's so wild to like see, you know, the internet's cool in the way that um you know, on Spotify and all that because you know that you guys can listen to this music that I'm making way the heck over here all the way over. I look on there and now there's a few more UK streams than there was before. And I'm sure it's because you guys. Yeah. Yeah. We already started number one. Anyway, um so uh a question for you. What's the best album or single you've listened to in the last 10 years? And what makes it stand out to you? In the last 10 years, the best best album I've listened to. Oh my gosh. Um, you're really putting me on the spot. Uh, Lake Street Lake Street Dive put out um, their last record. It's got Hush Money on it and it's got um, what's the name of the record? Lake Lake Street Dive. I guess I just fell in love with them over the last 10 years and I and I haven't fallen out of love with them and everything they put out I just obsess over. Um and and they have put out probably four records or more in the last 15 years, but in the last maybe three or four years have they gotten actually recognized. Um, so I would say Lake Street Dive. Um, and and like Marcus King, those are one of my probably my favorite records in the last couple artists that are releasing records in the last couple years, 10 years. Gosh, I don't know. There's so many. That was a question you put on the spot. Yeah, this I'm going to be like, dang, there's so many that this I didn't even own this record on my wall until a year ago. And that's my favorite. I if I was to get stranded on an island, that's the only record I'd take with me. It's the It's the That's gonna be one of my questions next. You know that. If you stranded on an island, the Almond Brothers live at the film. Uh that's one of the best ever. Yeah. Seriously, I found it at an estate sale for 30 bucks. Oh, cool. I've got I'm going to put that question into one of my um one of my sets is uh if you're stranded on a on an island, what what album would you take with you? I'm I'm going to change that question. Yeah, why not? Um, okay. So, uh, we are, uh, the Ruger Revival, as you well know, Kerry, is a is a bit of a community and we've always tried to push people out, um, into into the big wide world to try and help them out as much as we can. Um, and to give people a shout out if we can on every on every podcast that we do. So, in your view, do you know any emerging talent, any emerging bands, um, artists that you'd love to give a shout out on here and just say, you know what, they're coming up. They're doing this thing. We want to give them a bit of support. Yeah, 100%. Um, Niles Robovitz, he just goes by Niles. Um, Ny L period. uh he put a bunch of um he did all the guitar tracks on my record, but he's an amazing songwriter. He's won he won the songwriter showcase one year um one of the years that I did it. Um and so he's putting out a new record this year and he's he's just a great songwriter and an overall talent and nice guy. Um and then um of course Mus Gillum. Um I would definitely uh everything he writes is just I don't know his writing stands alone and sets him apart. Um incredible writer so must mus Gillum um he's out of Shreveport. Um, and then, um, Meredith Crawford, um, Hannah Owens, uh, she's out of Fort Worth. Um, and she's, she's just got a really cool, um, Brandy Carlile kind of vibe to her. Um, uh, I'm trying to think, there's there's a lot of of of great artists that don't get, you know, like it's not that they don't get enough. um they I just I feel like you know that they deserve more um more recognition and and you know and stuff like that. But yeah, I would say those are some ones off the top of my head. Um trying to think if I'm thinking of anybody else. Anybody else? No, that's that's that's great honestly. And it's it's what we like to do to try and give them a bit of a shout out uh on here to see what we can do to help them out, you know, just to give them a bit of a shove. So Tick I mean you'll know Nick. Yeah. Yeah. He's he did all the bass work on my on my record and so um he's everywhere. Dick is Yeah. Yeah. Um the most of the guys on my record that recorded on my record are artists in their own um in their own realms and and so yeah, Nick Brumley, Nile Rockovitz. Um, both of those guys are are awesome. Thank you for sharing that. I really appreciate it. Um, so now we've come to the section where if you thought my questions were random at the start, they're going to get even more random because this is the gossip section, Gary. The gossip section. We love a bit of gossip on the Ruger Revival. Little tea. Okay. I need to I need to get like a little soundboard thing to do if you will. Yeah. Yeah. One of them. Um, so what's the most outrageous rumor you've heard about yourself and did you help spread it a little bit? Um, well lately someone did ask me if Felicia was about a vibrator [Laughter] and I was like I think she just heard one line so she was and just went went with it. And so, you know, I don't mind spreading that rumor. That's amazing. I think she heard that smooth vibrations at 75 and was like, "Ah, resonate." I love it. You've actually knocked me sideways on that question. I wasn't expecting that at all, but thank you. No, that's great. Um, did you spread it a little bit? No, I'm joking. Here I am. Here I am. We're doing it now. Um, so next one is if someone wrote a tell all about your career so far, what would the juiciest chapter be called? Baptized by music or men. There's a free I'm loving this bit. I'm loving this section. Honestly, it's it's great. This is f fabulous. Um, and then the last random one is you get one chance to fake a tabloid social media headline that I love this question. Um, about yourself. What would it be? So, flashes up Sky News or CNN or something and it comes up with Kerry Lick and says what? Leaving. Wait, hold on. I'm I I'm I'm seeing it leading off. Have to have a beer. Where Dolly left taking over for Dolly. Like it. That is epic. That is brilliant. Thank you so much for sharing it with us. I don't know if I'll get that joke, but it's a joke. No, it's great. I'm I'm there with you. I'm there with you. Um, so the last two questions for me, and I've asked every artist, uh, and it's it's one of my special questions that I ask. So, um, this could be 3, 6, 9, 12 months, could be 16 years, whatever. Um, what is Kerry's top three goals? What would you like to achieve? Um, I'd love to achieve a gold album. And like, you know, like I just I want say I want to sell those. I know that sounds so it's like silly, but um you know I I want a I want a a gold album on the wall. Record on the wall. Yes. Um I would love to I would love to play Red Rocks. Um, and I would love to I would love to write an album slash collaborate in any way um with Marcus King. Amazing. And would you come back to us when you've completed them goals in a very short amount of time because I know it's because you're incredible. Would you come back and talk to us and tell us how it was? I'd be like, "Hey you guys, Ronnie TJ in a week. [Laughter] I did. That's brilliant. I've done it. Right. Next. Um Yeah. No, it's great. Thank you. Um and then just a a little sideways question really. Um when you've done a set or a gig or you've had a really really busy time in your in your schedule, what's the one thing you like to do to chill out and relax? There's been a lot of talk about fish. I've got to say, I've seen it on YouTube as well. I I do enjoy just like being by a body of water. Um, you know, I want we we live by the river. Um, we have this like little mini pontoon that's really like kind of like a creek cruiser, if you will. It can get in all like the shallow spots back in the creek. So, I just like to like disappear into the creek swampish world and and if I catch fish, cool. If I don't, fine. I just want to put my feet in the water and like I don't know, connect in that way. Perfect. And in fact, we're um I'm actually meeting TJ. We're driving halfway from wherever we live. Um driving halfway up and we just would said we just want to go to a nice place to have a bit of lunch by the water cuz we need to be buy some water cuz it's nice and safe. So, why not? 15 minutes of water time um like releases like oxytocin in the brain. Don't quote me, but I might as that up. I did read that somewhere. Maybe a couple of beers as well. You know, cut it. Yeah, it could be the beer. But more good for you. Yeah. Brilliant. Carrie, thank you so much. TJ, it's over to you again, please. Okay, mate. Well, you know, this is the point of the show. I don't know if we call it a show. What What do we do? It's a show. It's a show. It's a show. So, we like to play a little game sometimes just to kind of lighten the mood because it could be a little bit heavy with questions and especially with Ry's kind of left field kind of weird stuff that he likes to the I just almost told y'all the whole backstory on baptizing. That's that's deep. So, it's all good. It's all rug revival is all about, isn't it? Absolutely. Oh, Ro's got a game. I don't know what it is. So, forgive me. I don't know if it's good, if it's bad, if it's indifferent. But um he's even given me some opening uh kind of theme tune. So I'm going to play the theme tune and then hand over to see if you can guess it. Okay. Okay. Right. Let's go. One, two, three. [Music] Okay, that's awesome. Can you guess the theme tune? Uh, that's the is that the hillbilly? Um, gosh, is that doing guessing it? Uh, close hillbillies or something. Buckaroo. Do you remember the the Well, I don't you won't remember it cuz I've only found it on YouTube, but Buckaroo was the was the TV programed. Got that one wrong. Amazing. Right. So, this game is all about true Texas sayings, and we're going to test Kerry and TJ to see which one gets it right. Uh, I'll to up the answers, and then we'll see who wins. TJ against third advantage here to be fair. So, yeah, you have. That's why that's that's why I've done this game cuz I like seeing him lose. Anyway, right. So, True Tech is saying, is it true or false? He's all hat and no cattle. I just heard. Is it true or false? True. True. Go on, TJ. Is it true or false? See, you should probably ask me first cuz I'm just going to copy Kerry. So, I'm going to go true. Yeah, but don't do that. I'm going to cheat. You're both right. It's very much true. I just heard a song with that line in it not too long ago. I'm going to have to find it. I'll use that as a theme tune if we get permission. Obviously, I'll send it to you. Next one. I got it. She's slicker than a buttered cactus. She's slicker than a what cactus? Buttered cact cactus. Buttered. Buttered. Yeah. As in butter. I've never heard that one. Why would you butter your cactus? That sounds like a euphemism. I'm going to go false. If I go first, I'm going to go butter my cactus. be back in five. I'm just buttering be cactus. So, we saying Kerry, you saying true or false? False. False. You're both absolutely correct. Woo. Right. Next one. He's riding armadillos to the liquor store. I'm going to say false. I've never heard that in my life. False. Definitely false. God, you're both too good at this game. Uh, right. Unless they're his boots or armadillo boots, which would be kind of crazy. Yeah, it would be. Then he would be ready and we'll see how that goes. So, true or false? Hotter than a goat's butt in a pepper patch. Hotter than a what? A goat's butt in a pepper pepper patch. What if you can actually That sounds true. TJ, I'm going to say false. Kerry, you're right. You've got one up. You've got one up on him. Oh, what was that? Four free. Imagine. Imagine you're a goat in a pepper patch and how your booty would feel. Last one. More twisted than a tumble weed on tequila. True. I've never heard anybody use that one, but that sounds like it should be true. Yeah, exactly. That should be true. That should be true. I'm going to go true. You're both wrong. I should have gone the opposite. So, at the end of that game, Kerry won by one point. TJ hit. The Rocket Revival is one down. Yeah. I want a trophy. I I'll send you a trophy over. It's the buttered cactus trophy that will uh that will forever be the winning person's trophy. The buttered cactus. The buttered cactus will be buttered cactus. Yeah. Sorry, it's my accent. Buttered buttered cactus water. He's a commoner. But uh well, we're one n down. So that's another good start for these new games that we're playing. So I love it though. Bell next time. You're amazing, Carrie. Well done, TJ. Get better. Okay. Well, I'll try. Yeah, TG. Anyway, we've had enough fun now. We're back to the to the serious stuff now. Um, so Kerry, um, in terms of projects, collabs, you mentioned you've got a new song that will be out soon. Um, and that's what we'll add to the playlist. So, we'll we'll find out the name of that once you you get your release out and we'll be keeping a keen eye on that. But, what else have you got planned for kind of the rest of the year? What what kind of things have you got scheduled in? what anything exciting you can reveal? Um, well, the record comes out in August. It's called Blame It On Me, and it's going to, like I said, have 10 songs on it. Um, and I'm really excited to see what that does and where it goes. Um, and then a tour that's coming up with Presley. Um, that's at the end of July. We're going to do a little U tackle box tour, if you will. Um, and uh that's that's going to be about uh five or six states up towards New Mexico and West Texas. Um, and so I hope we get a chance to do some writing on that. And and yeah, I there's a couple songs off the record that I won't be releasing as singles, but I will be doing some projects with them. And there's one in particular called 30 Seconds that I'm really excited to um kind of give it its own light because it's a really special song to me. So, um, that's that's there that's that's what I can think of like right now off the top of my head for the next few months. No, that's really cool. There's some there's some exciting things going on there. So, uh, well, that leads us into the next one. So, you talked about kind of things going on throughout the year. Um, me and Ronnie might actually be heading to Texas if they grant us a visa. They might not want us in the country. I don't know. Um but around October to mid-occtober I think we're going to say um that we're hoping to be in the kind of Dallas Fort Worth area with a a friend uh a secret friend. Uh wow to do some things. We're going to borrow our cactuses and have a have a good if y'all don't have a buttered cactus and take pictures. We'll bring you one over. So, what what do you think that you know because we probably only got a week um this year to go to Texas and do a few things. So, we want to go do the usual shopping and, you know, buy ridiculous cowboy clothes and massive Well, that's just me probably. Like massive hats just sounds hilarious to do that. But, uh if you were to pick two things in terms of what we should do, perhaps around the Dallas Fort Worth area, maybe a bit further out, uh depends how far it is. What would you suggest that we come do? You come fishing with me. Sweet. One. Okay. Two. Um, go see a show at Double D Barbecue. Double D Barbecue. I've not heard of that one. It's a listening room. It's fairly new in Bluffdale, Texas. um about maybe an hour from DFW, like downtown Fort Worth. Um this is, you know, so about an hour drive out. Um but they have really really got this really neat thing going. It's a listening room style situation. So you go in, the owner comes in, he's like, you know, we're not talking. We're here to hear the words. We're here to hear the lyrics. And he's just he just brings amazing talent through and uh and great songwriters. So, go see a show at Double D Barbecue and come fishing with me. We willing. We will uh we'll drop you a line once we're we've got our our tickets booked. And there [Laughter] shut up, will you? Anyway, so I I think I'll hand back to Rody because we'll do some closing things and um anything anything that you want to go and have a lie down. Have a lie down. Especially I'm in a bad mood now cuz I left that game. So I can't quite get over it. So get over yourself. Yeah. Well, Kerry, um I have got the absolute pleasure of closing this podcast uh with you. Uh and I'd like to say that you have uh persevered with us through all of our technical problems, through the new refreshed rugged revival look. Uh we've had mixed words. We've had a wrong marriage announcement. Uh, and we've also had Butchered Lyrics by TJ. Um, but I want to end it on a bit of a high because as part of our uh, research, I try and find comments uh, online about you and what your fans are saying and what people are generally saying about you. So, if you wouldn't mind, I'm going to read some out um, before we say goodbye. Okay. So, uh, one here is Lick's talent and commitment are evident in her ability to engage her audience with her emotional performances. as she stays loyal to the genre's origins while offering a new viewpoint through her poignant lyrics and captivating melodies. Roots, rhythm, and blues cross with a flare of Americana, a sound right out of a vintage record shop. Kerry Lick has been recognized amongst the Texas music scene as an emerging act to get behind. And then we've got one from uh your one of your friends. Actually, my friend uh my girl pal Kerry Lick just dropped a new single, Things Break. I truly truly love this song. Um, and then the last one I've got in here is her songwriting carries weight with stories that Phil lived in and a voice that draws you in. We're definitely fans. Carrie, you have been an absolute pleasure to speak to today. Thank you so much for putting up with us. Thank you for joining us on the Rugger Revival. And what I'd like to do is raise a toast for you with something I haven't drunk already. Um, if you got a drink around you somewhere, you haven't got a butter cactus, can you say it in the English way that I say it? Buttered. Butteract butt. Yeah, I love it. But cactus. Can you say it in the in a Texas way? Buttered. Buttered. Butter. There. You nailed it. Nailed it. Yeah. Thank you. So, Carrie, if you've got a drink somewhere with you, um, could we I'll go get a toast. Go get a drink from the bar. Play some interlude music or something. I'll just do it by mouth. Okay. Oh, are you ready? All I have next to me. That's perfect. That'll do. That's perfect. Empty as well. You know, that's uh I haven't been drinking yet. Not yet. Anyway, so we like to raise a toast to the grit, to the grind, and to the revival. Cheers everyone for listening and thanks again, Kerry. Cheers. Cheers.

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