Jarrod Morris – Texas Horseshoer & Songwriter
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There's something distinctly American about a man who shoes horses by day and writes songs by night, and Jarrod Morris embodies that spirit with an authenticity that feels increasingly rare in modern country music. When we caught up with him recently on The Rugged Revival podcast, he'd just returned from Nashville on no sleep, having spent three days immersed in collaborative songwriting—a stark contrast to the solitary path that defined his early career. It's a telling detail about an artist in motion, someone actively reshaping his relationship with the music industry while staying grounded in the honest work that built him.
Morris represents a peculiar breed of Texas musician: one who's built a sustainable career on his own terms, largely outside the traditional machinery that typically churns out country stars. He's a horseshoer from rural Texas who's somehow managed to thrive as a singer-songwriter without sacrificing either craft for the other. When you ask him about this unusual dual life, he speaks with the clarity of someone who's thought deeply about why he does what he does. The horse work isn't a romantic sideline or a backup plan—it's intrinsic to who he is and how he creates.
The internet's pretty well blown the door wide open. A freaking horseshoer from Texas can have success and play the music he wants to play—20 years ago that wouldn't have been possible.
— Jarrod Morris
What's fascinating about Morris is his clear-eyed view of how the internet has fundamentally democratized the music industry. He's frank about it: twenty years ago, a horseshoer from Texas with musical aspirations would have had no choice but to relocate to Nashville, grind through the notorious "ten-year town," and hope a major label would take a chance. Instead, Morris built an independent career from his home state, developing a loyal following and establishing himself on his own timeline. That's not a small thing. It's the kind of independence that Americana and country music have always theoretically celebrated, and rarely actually enabled.
But here's where the conversation becomes more interesting than a simple bootstraps narrative. Morris acknowledges the limitations of staying entirely outside the industry infrastructure. There's a ceiling, he explains, when you're not part of the network that connects booking agents, managers, and the gatekeepers of larger opportunities. This realization has prompted him to actively change his approach—hence the monthly trips to Nashville, the collaborative writing sessions, the intentional networking that didn't come naturally to him initially.
I've been a lone wolf throughout my whole career, just out here in Texas on an island doing it on my own.
— Jarrod Morris
What's compelling is that Morris arrived at this decision without bitterness or compromise. He still values what he's built independently. He's not rushing to sign deals or chase trends. Instead, he's exploring collaboration from a position of strength, with "some ground to stand on," as he puts it. He's bringing something to the table rather than arriving as a supplicant. The songwriting and production work he's doing with other artists in Nashville isn't about reinventing himself—it's about deepening his craft and expanding his circle of creative peers.
There's a revealing moment in our conversation where Morris mentions that his initial draw to music came from collaboration: sitting around with friends, writing songs together, that communal creative energy. Years of solitary work—partly by necessity, partly by geography—had shifted him into a lone wolf mode that, while productive, had isolated him from the very thing that drew him to music in the first place. Now, with more intentionality, he's trying to reclaim that collaborative spirit without losing the hard-won independence he's earned.
This is the narrative that distinguishes Morris from countless other Texas singer-songwriters grinding away in honky-tonks and coffee shops. It's not about sudden success or a viral moment. It's about an artist who's already built something real, already found an audience, and is now asking deeper questions about where his music can go and what kind of creative relationships will nourish his work.
The Jarrod Morris story—the Texas horseshoer with an old soul and a modern songwriter's discipline—deserves your attention. His willingness to examine his own approach, to reach beyond his comfort zone, and to collaborate without losing his center says something important about artistic maturity. Listen to the full episode to hear an artist genuinely in transition, not chasing fame, but pursuing better music and deeper connections. That's worth your time.
[Music] when [Applause] you crash [Music] andn Hearts get broke tables turn you lose your love welcome back to the rugged Revival podcast I'm really excited to have with me here today Jared Morris uh Jared is a texas-based singer songwriter he's also the podcast host h of his own show uh called the Jared Morris Vibe uh Jared's career has taken him from being a horse faer to the spotlight of the Texas country music scene U so we're going to take a real good opportunity now to to get to know all about Jared's background and what he's currently up to so thanks for joining the podcast Jared how are you doing mate hell yeah I'm good dude midnight here though right now so pretty late yeah no it's not it's about 230 for you is yeah I don't know how many how many of these do you do with uh is most of the that you do with like International people or is a lot of people from like the UK uh we've had one from the UK but mostly is from International so it's normally central time so I've got really a good grip of um you know Central Time in a minute so I know if I plan it 8:30 it's 2:30 for you guys I don't know if it's too early for you lot to get on the beer but um you know for me it's Friday night it's all good you know I can I can crack on mate totally yeah that's what it's all about dude exactly mate but how's your week been so far You' been you've been busy yeah I just got back from Nashville at like uh I guess 500 am this morning or something and then I was up it I had other stuff I had to do today so I'm running on like an hour or two of sleep I was in Nashville for three days writing and stuff and uh I'm working on a couple records with for like for some other artists writing on some other uh artist records and uh I've been trying to go out there more um I've sort of been a lone wolf throughout my whole career just out here in Texas and you know I haven't made like a ton of Industry connections or anything like that I've just kind of been on an island doing it on my own um so I've been going out to Nashville probably like once a month for like the last year so trying to because I love the songwriting part of stuff and I love producing and I like making records so I'm trying to you know write with a bunch of people and explore that part of my you know that part of your repertoire yeah absolutely I mean I spoke to you know plenty of people um like Jared um sorry um Adam hood and other artists and they said a lot of people can exclusively tour Texas and and make a good go of it and not actually have to leave the state so is is that something you're actively trying to do by going to Nashville and places like that yeah it's uh you know you the way with the internet right now I mean it's such a huge blessing you know my my my career wouldn't exist pre- internet just because I would have to be in Nashville I would have to be in the in the machine you know before the internet you know you you either had to you pretty much had to sign a major label deal because they they were the ones that held all the the connections and all the strings whether it was from like distribution or getting on radio or anything and the internet's prettyy well blown the door wide open with that is that's the only reason that you can get you know a freaking horseshoer from Texas to be able to like have some success and play the music that he wants to play you know 20 years ago I would have to move to Nashville and probably be a writer for 10 years and then you know the 10 year town they call it the 10year town some of people have referred to Nashville as yeah yeah and it's still it's it's a 10-year career that still exists but you don't have to do it in Nashville but then it does feel like there's there's a point you get to that there's a little bit of a ceiling in some ways that um you know just with you know a lot of the major booking agents and managers and all that they all most of them are in for the most part are in Nashville so to get certain opportunities there's a certain level of like networking that you have to do that I you know I just haven't I just haven't done I've just kind of been on my own so uh I'm you know been trying to trying to meet more people and mingle I guess does that come naturally for you yeah I mean I like hanging and stuff and uh it was mainly out of necessity that I was such a lone wolf in music uh I just didn't have a lot of people around that were that were doing it and trying to do it so I had to do it all on my own uh but the whole reason I got into into music initially was from like a collaborative standpoint I loved sitting around with my buddies and playing the guitar and writing songs that was always so fun so that's actually been cool is to explore that more now and collaborate with different people and write with people you know but have some ground to stand on you know it's not like I'm coming you know with uh nothing to you know show for like I'm I'm I'm coming to some of these you know these opportunities with some of my own stuff already going on which is which is kind of fun I'm I'm glad I did it that way you know rather than the other way around if I just showed up and it was super green and I didn't have anything going on and you know that you kind of feel like you're begging almost a little bit at that point and like at least I'm at a point now where I don't you know if there's somebody I really just don't like I'm like all right well I don't I don't need you like I'm not GNA waste my time with somebody I don't enjoy spending time around yeah so that's a nice that's a good feeling like you don't does that make sense like you know you know sometimes you know if you're if uh you know you really need somebody you'll probably put up with a little bit more BS than you probably want to I think we all do in our careers but it Life's too short I find and the older I'm getting I've got less uh less time for that kind of [ __ ] and uh you you want to spend your time with the people that you want to be around people that inspire you people that you get on with and you know make it makes things fun doesn't it yeah yeah it makes things a lot easier it's hard to find but especially in Show Business uh you know cuz there's a lot of folks that um there I say a lot there's there's some the overwhelming majority are really cool great people uh they're in it for the right reasons and then there is that subset of people that are only in it to feed like all they're only in it to feed like this ego and attention and you know they probably have some pretty severe narcissistic Tendencies and yeah I mean like if you're in an industry Like Show Business yeah like those types of people are obviously going to gravitate towards that but like the overwhelming majority of people aren't aren't like that you know they're interested and doing something cool and doing something unique and the Artistry actually behind it putting in the work uh um so you know you just you know you're gonna meet some people that you're like H yeah that's not really my My Vibe honestly most people are pretty freaking cool because like to have any level of success sure there's some that just get like exceptionally lucky and they didn't have to work hard at all but like 99% of the people that have any sort of success really in any industry uh they had to grind you know so it's pretty tough to like get to the top of anything like Amber Alert I guess um it's really hard to get to the top of any industry uh and get there by like treating people like crap and being a douchebag it's like it probably you know doesn't happen it's rare that you end up being successful it's got to be a different world now and it's interesting the people I speak to now with the you know with social media now and you know what what we said minut it is like you know it's not just being an artist and being a singer songwriter or whatever it's you now kind of be the the social media um star at the same time and I suppose that that can have its benefits that can have its drawbacks with certain individuals and you know you I'm seeing a lot of people on Instagram particularly where they've got a huge following and and perhaps like one or two songs out and then you know I'm looking at other artists who've got you know they can have a greatest hits you know um and not so much in that respect of a following and I'm like H how is this working there how is this working for you in terms of the social media aspect of it yeah it's uh well it's a double-edged sword because you know the only reason I have any sort of the only reason I can make a living making the music that I want to make is because of social media and like the internet um I was able to you know just like even like the quality of pictures you can just take on an iPhone nowadays and the video you can do like I I've done everything off my phone you know it was just last year I bought some nice cameras so you know my my entire existence in the industry is because of a freaking phone and being able to post photos and videos the way I want to do them and then it resonates with people uh and put out music you know that goes with that you know it used to be there was a video production team it would cost a freaking million dollars to go to a music video and then hopefully some promoter guy can get it on MTV and then hopefully it's in a good spot on MTV and then people will hear your music and then they'll go buy your record and then they'll come to shows like the the model like why people like you and why they go out to shows is no different it's just the medium with which they consume it on is a little bit different and I'm actually thankful that I don't have to go through a bunch of freak like a million different people to be able to get like my music video out to somebody like if it's cool uh you know I put it on Instagram and cut clips of it put it on Tik Tok and on YouTube and it's cool people consume it um I have a little sneaky suspicion that some artists uh sort of it's like they they kind of want the old model where there was more Gatekeepers interest to me because there there was always it was almost like the gatekeeper was always this uh kind of faceless nameless excuse for why you weren't doing well you know like it was like well you know I just haven't had the right opportunities well you know if the right people hear me then I'll you know and that was kind of true like because there was so much barriers to entry nowadays it's like if somebody's not having the success that they want to have it's like well maybe you're music isn't that good maybe I don't know if you've ever considered this but like maybe the way like what you're doing like doesn't resonate with people the way you think it does like and that's kind of the cold and it's not like I'm some freaking household name so like that's a conversation I have with myself like probably too often you know uh but I think it's a good one there's just not I don't feel like there's that many excuses anymore um and sure there's some people that don't have maybe my favorite music but it does it's really popular only because they've learned how to be really good marketers of the music like sure that exists but um I I try not to I just kind of do my thing I put the blinders on and can read some of the stuff that seems like a curse often times is a blessing in my experience you know it's like you know we say you know social media it's like well you got to do all this and now you got to be the marketing promo and branding like well just flip that on its head to me that sounds like a huge opportunity you know it doesn't cost a freaking million dollars to go shoot a music video and get it out to millions of people that's dope that to me an opportunity if you're willing to do the work and it's a lot of work but no one's forcing us to do this for a living that's the other thing no you know what it's a real positive way of looking at it and that's why I like speaking to lots of different people because everyone has their own opinion of things and like you say you know with the gatekeeping of the old school type of thing and maybe that's some of the older artists that that kind of get get stuck in their ways with with that and it's interesting to hear you know what other people think but just Dar daring it back slightly and I'm sure you are so many times about this mate but um you know I'm just interested about your background and how long you've been in music and you know you you're a a horse fa are you still doing that are you are you still kind of working away in the background or is is music now fulltime for you yeah well I always like I always say that uh they both were I I just have one full-time job now where uh you know six years ago I had two full-time jobs so the only difference is that like I don't have to shoot horses full-time anymore awesome but I never really got to do either one of them part-time I would just I just was going nonstop had to make a living I would make a living shoeing during the week and then just lose all of it on the weekend going and trying to play shows you know paying a band and Fuel and hotels the whole deal so uh and I and I didn't grind doing that as long as a lot of guys have you know um so I was thankful that I had like a career that like I owned my own business um and could you know work like when I was available and then have flexibility to be able to go play shows and to be able to write stuff at the same time but um I don't have to I don't have to shoot anymore I still have like a handful of customers that I still take care of and when I'm in town like I think I shoot I don't know I probably shoot like a handful of days a month or something and uh because I still like to take care of them and I still like to do it there's especially like the type of music that I like to write um I I definitely identify more with the like I say like full country song writing because it you know traditionally comes from more of the Common Man the blue collar The Working Man type of background and that to me the the relatability of that it just you know we're all most most people aren't super wealthy and most of us are just you know we're trying to get by we're trying to treat people right we're opening the door for somebody when we go into the convenience store we're sticking up for somebody if they get picked on like we're doing real world stuff we don't make a ton of money and I and I think writing in this genre if you don't have something that kind of grounds you into that world uh like what are you going to ride that's why I think like sometimes guys get like really popular and have some success and then the songs start to just get like un I mean I say unrelatable but yeah they're not they're not living the life of the people that they're like offens yeah supp writing the songs for and uh and so I I I I think I'll probably always do it I have some pretty significant back problems and stuff though from it so uh I don't I can't do it quite like I used to you know but uh I don't know if I'll ever quit it's become such a part of me well my wife my wife train horses so I'll always you know shoot her horses that's like a non-negotiable I was gonna say you got no choice in the mat not most likely so talk to us how how did you get into music in the first place then Jared you know what what was kind of your influences growing up around Texas and you know what what were the early days looking like for you um pretty eclectic you know geographically where I was at you know you could walk into any convenience store or gas station uh you know they're playing you know it was all lot like a lot of traditional classic country stuff that was just sort of the background of your life just because of geographically where we grew up so the Texas country thing was in that but when I actually got into guitar I kind of went more of like the snob the snob route on it where and I'm not like a super good guitar player but like the way I learned guitar was way more in like a like a bluesy you know like a like a bluesy Jazzy um pop guitar kind of thing um and uh and so anything that wasn't maybe kind of technically hard or difficult to play I would just be I you know I'm like 15 or whatever and I'm like because you just like you don't have enough I I wasn't as much into the songwriting thing I was super super into Melody and and uh this might sound weird but like the way the way lyrics sounded rather than more so than like what they were saying it was more like the way they sounded yeah like like the phonetics of of lyrics has a lot to do with how like the melody sounds and just the like how pleasant it sounds and uh and so I was always in and like I still write songs that way a lot where like I just kind of Mumble through Melodies and then like words start to take shape but then you start to find words that fit like the way that those like vowels and consonants were were sitting you know so to where like rather than just having a bunch of lyrics and trying to like jam them into a melody and then it starts to just seem like kind of like it just doesn't flow that well you know it kind of sounds sure you're saying so it's a balance like you want to say what you want to say while it's sounding nice you know uh anyways uh no I get that I mean i' I've listened to a lot of your music like I said over the last week or two and it's just been stuck in my head and and that is down to the Melodies you know I've been singing it around the house and you know the tracks man it's um so I I I can totally see and and understand what you're saying and um yeah that that's kind of my background you know that's that the melody type of thing yeah I mean I I I didn't grow up with country when I was younger it was more you know in in the UK it was like house music and things like that so it was all about Melody there was very rarely singing in in those tracks so it was all about it and when you did have singing you know it fit perfectly because the melody was kind of first and foremost so yeah I really I really get what you're saying there and you know it's interesting what you're saying with with the kind of influences that you had um with with the music side of things and I can hear that in your your song um oh what was that one I was listening to the other day um it had a saxophone kind of Solo in it it really threw me off I was like this is the you know you've got some real country bangers in there and then that that kind of flowed I was like wow this this is completely different to to what I was expecting man so that's off for that it's probably not a super genius move uh and it's been it's been a uh you know it probably hasn't helped me PE people people like to uh they people like for stuff to be clean clean cut and kind of defined some people um I just didn't grow up listening to music that way so I am I am like who I am like I there's certain parameters that I live in that like I'm not going to change uh but in terms terms of like the music I listen to it's pretty all over the place so you know it's like it's not like I'm gonna start rapping or something you know that's the thing now though always be like very guitar driven and like I have certain Tendencies and certain things I like so you know it's not like it's totally schizophrenic where it's like oh my gosh this is a hip-hop track or something uh but yeah I like to explore like different sounds and if the song just sounds like it's going a certain way I'm like bro let's I loved it I just really wasn't expecting that's it if you ever wonder why wasn't it because I I listened to the YouTube acoustic version and that was awesome as well was like I love the strip back you know the sounds and you kind of get a real feel for for the tracks themselves but you know listening to it on Spotify and it's like it's it's got a real 80s vibe to it you know yeah you mark my words mark my words well so I have a theory that country music the genre lags pop music by like I don't know five to 10 years in terms of the sounds that they use like for instance you know Lumin ear bumpered and Suns uh all that type of stuff uh Of Monsters and Men um like all that folk folk pop type type deal was huge early 2010s right in pop music um and then you get five to 10 years later you get Zack Bryan and all these kind of folk pop guys that are more in the country format um and then pop went through its 80s phase right like the nostalgic 80s phase that was like 16 17 or probably later than that you know you had like John Mayer put out a super 80s record that was like a Yacht Rock record and then uh the weekend had more of like the futuristic 80s sounds and uh you know everybody had sort of those vibes but it hasn't hit country yet and I noticed like Morgan Wallen on his last record had a song it was the title track but it sounds like a freaking 1975 Groove and like well the 1975 they're from the UK aren't they they are yeah yeah I'm a huge 1975 fan but uh yeah so his last record I'm like this could be a freaking 1975 song um and so I have a you just wait it'll be like they have those real poppy strats starting to come out like those super chusy guitars uh which will be cool um but and that's also where like on the creative side of making music um you know the curtain kind of gets pulled back a little bit I I believe in genres because there you have to you know it you have to be able to explain things effectively like there is a difference between like traditional country and like 80s pop rock like there are differences but at the same time when when you're trying to make something unique and different you're usually trying to blend multiple worlds um you're borrowing from different genres and uh and and that's where you you know I I think people would probably be surprised by uh the influences of their favorite artists uh and I mean this specifically for the people that are like the Die Hard like honky Tong Outlaw country you know which I love that type of music but it's it's sometimes ironic how the things that they like uh and they say it's like Outlaw country and I'm like oh that's interesting like for instance after this is a prime example like after one of my shows there was the first two people I talked to at the merch Booth was like a uh it was like a guy like an older guy like probably in his 60s and then it was a young like a girl in her 20s the guy came they were behind each other in line the guy walked up and he was like man I love it really enjoy like you know what I love most about you I was like what's that he goes I just love that you keep it straight country and I was like okay cool yeah thank you love yeah awesome and then the girl walks up she didn't hear what he said or whatever but she she came up to me and she goes oh my gosh I loved it you know what I love about you so much and I was like what and she was like I just love that you don't keep it straight country backtack conversations and I go oh well thank you I appreciate that but look good thing they're both right like they both so like you either like it or you don't um whether or not somebody likes it or they don't is totally an opinion like you're right no one can disagree with you if you say I don't like that it's like okay yeah all right you're right can't argue with that now why you don't like it is kind of a totally different a lot of people don't know why they think they know why but they don't half the time I don't know why I think I know why I don't like something but I really don't I like listen to some like I love to go back and listen to to like records and songs that are some of my favorite of all time and then but I don't listen to them all the time so like the last time I heard it maybe is seven years ago right and I'll turn it back on and now with like the way my ears are now and and some of my experience in the studio the way that I listen to those songs is entirely different and it's interesting to it's kind of humbling because there's things I hear in those records where I'm like oh how weird they did that why did they do that and like now my ear kind of doesn't like it in certain ways but I have to tell myself but that's like a lesson to be learned where I'm like I'm wrong like my new little technical ear is wrong like because I loved it at one point just purely just out of listening to it no technical understanding it just sounded good and that's like the way music is supposed to be consumed and so sometimes artists can get lost like I'm guilty of it you can get lost in something being you know technically good or whatever and then it you just kind of lose the whole you know the essence of what it was supposed to be to begin with you know definitely well music is just the mood for me I I go through weird phases you know I'm listening to Shard last night I have no idea why but um you know I just fancied listening to a bit of sh it's not very cool what you what' you call it Shard Shard yeah it's like like ' 80s 90s like soft rock or Jazz shall we say you know it's I said it's not particularly cool or you know you go through a phase of just just like you know I'm a big southern rock fan so and this is how I kind of went full circle with country so you know I love country but I'm not just someone that listens purely to Country I've Got Friends that like that and just only listen to One genre and I think it's quite sad you know it's um you know it's a mood and if you if you want to put something Dancy on you you put some house on you know it's like whatever takes you each day totally yeah I'm I'm totally with you yeah yeah it's just a total mood thing it's a Vibe thing like there's yeah like even in my live show like I have a lot of music that's you know really thoughtful and slower more ballady like in my live show I don't I don't particularly want to go out to a show and see somebody just not smile the whole time and just do the like sultry brooding s like it's cool but I'm not gonna sit there for two hours and listen to that it's boring at some point like not every song has to like lyrically change the world in some like super profound way talking about just the heaviest components of life not every song has to do that some can and that's cool but like other ones can alter the course of your day and alter your mood because how the freaking synth sounds over this drum Loop you know drum machine like that also changes the like your perspective on the day as well just as much as the super deep lyrics you know and then and then if you can do both that's where it's like you know that's where it's fun I I noticed I was going for for your Facebook cuz I do a bit of research obviously before anyone comes on and I was scrolling through and it was a super Oddball kind of track that you were playing live and that was uh Tears for Fears man so see you jaming out to that yeah sweet that was awesome love it be most people would be surprised uh because I I come out of the cowboy rodeo world and uh you know like I cover Billy Idol in my live show too I do white wedding and uh people are usually a little surprised but um like yeah every Rodeo I've ever been to they play White Wedding in the rodeo like that that's where When Worlds Collide that that's what I like you know people aren't quite as people are Nuance you know what we like what we don't like how we dress you know you know the you know the people we like to date you know it's just like people are just super nuanced we're not quite as clean cut as uh you know maybe like a marketing team likes to think that we are and that's when usually something breaks through is because it's just different enough where it's like wow it just catches your attention it's like okay you know um Sturgill Simpson is a prime example of that uh you know I guess his his record that did really well I think it probably came out like 2012 or something and that was when other than in Texas there was just nobody on a national stage really doing like a honky ton country thing um where it sonically sounded the way that he sounded like he had a very kind of rootsy um style to his recordings and and he would get up there and just have like a ball cap and do balance like he looked like a Middle School soccer coach and he's up there doing like like super country stuff and he sounds like whan singing and there's a part of me watching it that if he got up there and he had like a whatever like a what are those called like a nudie suit on and he had his little cowboy hat and he was doing the whole like stick like it wouldn't have been as cool because it would been almost inauthentic it would have just been sort of hokey and I'd seen it before I've already seen it so it's and it's cool I like it I get it but I've already seen it but what I haven't seen is a guy that sounds like whan and writes unbelievable songs that are like super unique um but then you know dress is like he's just freaking you know he's just going to the grocery store like just woke up I've bought tickets for him to in London in March next year so I cannot wait so the old Johnny blue sky is kind of stick L he's got going on man so I I cannot wait to see what sort of show he puts on and he only plays for hours as well doesn't he you know it's not just a a short set it's a it's a whole kind of myriad of of music that he he puts on throughout the show it's um yeah you talk about somebody that's switched up sounds quite a bit holy cow he's gone for it he did the whole Japanese like anime Saga thing yes whole record was I like that or something wasn't it it was crazy wasn't it yeah it was like um it wasn't a version of one of his existing albums wasn't it that he he kind of went off on a on a tangent with that the anime and you know other things that he's done I mean I got into sturer with I think it was cutting grass was the one that I started listening to and that's still my favorite it's just it's simp was that High Top Mountain yeah I just can't get over that record dude it's so cool well and that guitar player that played on that stuff I'm pretty sure he's from Europe pretty sure he's from like Eastern Europe or something oh right okay and I don't know how they found him I think I can't remember story it's cool story but he's just an absolute just freak Shredder so that's a prime example I mean he's playing in like and what is my opinion like one of the one of the better honky ton country bands that's been around for a long time was when he was doing that stuff and that guitar player on that on those records uh you know how how do you get somebody that sounds like that he sounded different than stuff we had heard before while still like paying homage to you know he learned the the Styles and the techniques you know of that genre but then of course because he lives in freaking Eastern Europe it's probably gonna have some different flavors to it it was cool like I love that that's what makes it cool you know makes absolutely but unique authentic I like authentic I like that that's what I'm drawn to and my my ear has a knack for for picking out crap basically uh and unfortunately in the UK and you know I speaking to a lot of people from Nashville and Kentucky and places like that and I said is the radio the same where you are because in the UK it's very hard to get away from solely like Morgan whan and Megan [ __ ] and th those sort of artists and I found a lot of you guys through listening to the ranch radio and going on the internet radio I just can't find it here man um and I went on to that and uh I've listened to that pretty much exclusively for for the past couple of years now and this is where I've picked up on people like Adam hood and yourself and you know that the Texas based artist because it's a Texas radio station um and I love it you know and you know they were playing some music today and you know from really small artists I'm I'm like you know this is cool you go on Instagram this one guy I was following today had like 1,000 followers and I thought it's great that his tracks are being played on a such a cool station you know is is that what that Texas is like is have you got more kind of opportunities to listen to things that the radio no no doubt like there is act there is nowhere else in the country um that gives totally unknown aspiring songwriters the opportunity to uh like carve out like a legitimate career that they can go like tour or play shows like you can get up in a bar I call it the Texas Heckle so like when I first started really playing music I was I was down in uh South Florida and I would play these like cover bar gigs and stuff which are necessary because it teaches you how to like just interact with the crowd and like how to you know take a little bit of [ __ ] from somebody and give a little bit of [ __ ] and laugh and have fun um but you know you just play a bunch of covers and down there you know typically it would just be like hey play something we know like we don't want to they don't want to hear your original song I don't care right like most tourists that really like most places in the country and when you go to Texas like you'll go you play some you can go to some like dive bar and they'll probably have some dude over there like playing the happy hour with his acoustic guitar and he's playing a bunch of covers and stuff more often than not there will be some freaking cowboy dude in the corner of the bar like just been sitting there in Silence the entire night drinking his beer just listening to the guy and then when the guy says is there anything y'all want to hear he'll be like play something you wrote and the whole bar will sit there and listen to him and like if it's trash they'll let him know that's the other thing that's the flip side you know like they'll let you know but they'll give you a chance to listen and um you know like you go to Broadway in Nashville and you're not allowed to play your original songs not allowed to play an original like they give you lists of that's why you go from bar to bar and they're all playing the same songs which that's part of the marketing of the like the labels own pieces of the bars and all that so they're trying to pump out certain types of music like I get it and and and at the like I just went and played some songwriter rounds in Nashville which are like they were dope it was very very cool it was all songwriters song swaps and we sit there and play our songs um so there's pockets of it in different parts of the country but there's like an infrastructure in Texas where like there's venues that will let you sell tickets come in bring your band play all original music and the fans are also like prepared for it um you know I've noticed it more now in Fort Worth where Texas has gotten more popular and uh now all the uh uh Bridal parties or having their deals like in in Fort Worth in the stock cards you know I started noticing it didn't used to happen at all and they all have their little pink cowboy hats on and stuff and uh we were playing a show down there uh like the end of last year and we were just soundchecking we were getting ready for the show that night and it was going to be like a Big Show and uh and it's ticketed event and stuff but they had like came in there like they didn't know they didn't know anything so they were just in there getting a drink or whatever and they came up while we were there they were like hey do you take request and I was like oh no we're just soundchecking right now you know and they were like oh what are you doing then and they just kept coming up they're like what are you doing and I was like we're soundchecking this is a sound check a full band this is a ticketed event after a certain time you're just in here while the bar is just doing their thing and they just could not well who are you and I would tell them and they're like well I've never heard of you and I'm like well I've never heard of you but this is what I do for Liv there are some people that have heard of me so it was just like she just couldn't comprehend and it's not her fault uh but that just goes to show you like the culture is a is a little bit different in terms of uh like music musically you know and that's also a double edged sword too because just because you live in Texas and play a guitar and write a song doesn't mean you're a good songwriter you know like that's also a thing too because like you go out to Nashville to some of these songwriting sessions you get humbled pretty quick because they're doing it freaking five days six days a week you know 10 hours a day and they are good at it and they'll humble you you know so anyways that's my freaking diet dve no no I mean that was going to be one of my questions how was how would it scenes different you know with the Texas scene you've been going up to Nashville recently I've been talking to guys over in Kentucky and West Virginia I I love all the music and it's it's just interesting to me how each scene kind of differs and is there a bit of a rivalry between the Texas scene and the Nashville scene and you know I'm I'm I'm getting some hints of that is is that is that the case or is that thee yeah there used to it used to be like um no it was like they did they like did get along like for real for real that was it was it used to be like a legit rivalry now it's just you know kind of people acknowledge it's a little different but most of I guess the Dirty Little Secret is like most of the popular music coming out of Texas those artists cut those records in Nashville like they're not cutting those records in Texas like they're using Nashville musicians a lot of Nashville songwriters so which is fine um so yeah there's a little bit of a rivalry I like I will say uh it's changed a little bit now because the cowboy thing is popular but every time I've been to Nashville every single time I almost get into a fight at least like at least once or twice every single time I like every time I go out um I mean it just happened two days ago where it was like I had I had to tell the guy like all right we have he just kept going I just walked out on the patio with with my buddy and he just he just goes you and that effing hat I had my cowboy hat on and I was looked at I was like excuse me and he just kept going on and I was trying to be nice to him you know uh and he just couldn't take it it just buged him you know and uh so finally I was like look we can either I was like we have two options like I'm not going to do this in between thing like we can either be cool and just be friends I'm totally okay with it or we can go scrap in the street but we're not going to do this little in between then he was like got all weird or whatever but uh but like it just B I just I don't know he's like where are you from and I'm like Texas he's like of course you're from Texas I was like gosh so I told him I was like man if you came to where I'm from with all my buddies we we'd be nice to you and uh I was like I think I think you're probably a cool guy I think you're just misunderstood you know did that soften the conversation any no anyways but yeah there is like a there's like a because I you know it goes both ways there's some Texas dudes that have uh you know kind of think their you know their [ __ ] don't stank and they you know don't appreciate what what Nashville does and has done and then that goes the other way as well uh which I just a lot of that I just I just call a spade a spade like if you're a cool person you're a cool person know if you're not you're not I know a lot of douchebags from Texas and I know a lot of douchebags from other parts of the country I will say culturally I just I just like Texas I like the culture there there's just a ton of stuff about it I just really enjoy and I've lived a lot of different places too but there does seem to be something particularly special and I say Texas it's like even surrounding states you know like I love Oklahoma um love it and all up through the West like I got a lot of good friends now from like Wyoming and Montana uh and like they're just they're cool people just good people there's a lot of good people all over the place but well one one of my places I really want to go is Texas and you know I keep hearing about Billy Bobs uh Texas so I'd love to go there have have you been playing there have you I've never played there no I've never played there we just did the Big Show I've I've done in Fort Worth was just a few weeks ago and it was like you ride it there's a smaller venue called Tanana Hills it's really nice but it's smaller uh and it's like right next to Billy Bobs but I haven't made it Billy Bobs yet I'm only saying that because I keep hearing it on the ranch radio I thought that sounds like a cool place to go I don't know anything about it but you the biggest I think it's the biggest like bar in the world or something like that because Honky Tonk in the world they they describe it as yeah so I thought that that's got to be somewhere you have to go if if you're into your music into your Texas Music Billy Bobs man so you know I'm 40 in h January as well so I'm trying to convince my wife to be that uh you know let me let me go to America for a weekend you know which will turn into a week or maybe a two or two weeker and then uh you know I'll tour Texas or or somewhere like that so yeah that's the the Great is like I I listen to a ton of uh like I love Oasis uh I love Cold Play I freaking love the 1975 like all the all the British people like I I grew up on Eric Clapton like I was a huge Eric Clapton fan same huh same yeah I love Clapton he's awesome oh yeah yeah so it's just funny it's like you almost don't even there's something weird about just not you grew up around it and grew up with it you just don't appreciate it as much it's weird The Human Experience we're some weird creatures we certain are love it you know so let's go into your career um Jared in terms of um your debut album west of East when was that released uh I guess it was 2019 yeah so about five years ago seemed like a seemed like an ATT turny ago since that that came out it does and it doesn't I mean five years isn't even that that was the crazy thing is it it took me so long to even just get to the point where I put out some music that's what the time leading up to that was what was like I scrapped two whole projects maybe more even three uh yeah I lost a lot of money just they didn't sound good it wasn't good I wasn't good like the songs weren't that good you know it's like the whole thing just never put it out and then finally got with the right people and then put that out and uh yeah so I mean that was only five years ago and then put out a lot of stuff since then um and then now I'm we're we're finishing a a full album uh that we'll end up putting out the first single is coming on uh December 6 and then the record will come out in the spring spring early summer of 25 that's while to figure that that sound out that we were going for on on this new stuff so I'm excited does the new stuff differ much to to what you put out I mean I I was listening to i' say all all of your records that you put out just to get a kind of flavor of of where you started and where you're up to now and I mean there's some great tracks on the original uh you know the west of East album you got Coyote red bandana and for me it struck out it was really well produced because I hear lot of kind of a debut albums come out from from smaller artists and the produ I can hear the songs are there but the production isn't and what what sort of team did you have behind you for that yeah I was really fortunate there's a big festival called Larry Joe Taylor Fest here in Texas um and Larry Joe Taylor is kind of like a old Texas music legend and um he puts on a songwriter competition every year with the festival and then like in 2017 or 18 I won that competition and it's like pretty like it's a pretty big deal in Texas to win that deal and uh we ended up becoming really good buddies and then he helped me out a ton helped me get my first like booking agent and he managed me for a little bit and then he hooked me up with a guy named Lloyd Ms which is a legendary Texas producer so he's the dad of Natalie Ms who's the lead singer for The Dixie Chicks so he produced like the Dixie Chicks record and a bunch of Pat Green records and he's he he did uh I can't remember I know he did one record I don't know if he did two records for Parker McCollum his like sophomore and Junior albums I think he used Lloyd M's um so anyways Larry Joe was friends with him and then he hooked me up with him and so he produced that first record uh for me and then there was a guy named Josh Sado who was the engineer he's from right around Larry Joe there um and he helped me a ton and I've worked with him a lot and he did uh part of my second record as well well taught me a lot we spent a ton of time together and he's a total freak so he plays guitar now for co- Wetzel and is co-producing a lot of stuff with him um so yeah that was the moment where I finally found some people that was like okay you get what I'm trying to do you like what I'm trying to do and you're willing to like spend some time on and uh they they helped me a ton um and so now going forward like I have I have my own studio with um he actually drums for me now but uh he's his name is Wyatt Lankford he's a really good engineer um and producer and we have a studio together and so he works exclusive exclusively with me now so I've pretty much spent like the last two years just in the studio trying to get better because the studio is like a an instrument of its own that's just like kind of a whole other beast and so you kind of do just have to do you want to get Unique Sounds and and and just different takes on things you're going to have to you just got to spend time tinkering you know some people like that some people don't but I want to get you know I like to have just something that sounds different and it just takes time so that's where we've been we've been working a lot and but we finally have like landed I think we've landed the spaceship so what what other artists have uh won the Larry Joe Taylor songwriters award so you you won it in 2018 seen is there any kind of household names that have won it before or after is is that the biggest thing in Texas for people to get into outside of kind of Nashville yeah I mean probably like on the songwriting side it's one of the bigger ones uh in Texas for sure but like Parker McCollum won that competition like I think like a few years before me or something and then I think I can't remember if kto Cordo won it or if he was just in it um but he's the he's the writer singer for flatland Cavalry he awesome yeah Caitlyn but was in it um I mean Giovani Giovanni and The Hired Guns Giovanni was in the competition the year I was in it um uh Randall King I think he might have won it I can't remember um yeah there's a whole bunch of them you know that all that's like sort of sort of the thing you go do that you want with his steamed company then you know there's some a lot of those guys are are quite big the UK as well particularly flatland Calvary and C in the moment they're killing it yeah and I mean and then there's some other people that have won it that uh you know I mean there's well that that's what I'm saying is like some of those artists didn't win the competition but they're like having massive success so you know that's like the whole that's the whole thing you know it's it's weird it's all opinion it's all subjective that's the that's the beauty of it but then that's also can be frustrating because we like to think it's more objective that guy sucks like why well you know according to who right like I don't like Florida Georgia line but I don't know you're allowed to have an opinion I think in this day and age it's getting more difficult though isn't it definitely you're allowed to have an opinion as long as you acknowledge it's just an opinion you know you're like this is like and I get it I get it there's some stuff I don't like I'm just like this is terrible but I get it you know I just try to resist being too freaking you know stuck in my ways on that type of stuff anyways bullheaded on some other things for sure well you talked earlier about being a bit of a lone wolf I mean with with uh the stuff that you've done or the stuff that you you're about to do are you collaborating with more artists on the records yeah you will say that again are you collaborating with any any artists on your new records or you know is there anyone that you're spending time with you know to to make music yeah there's there's some songs that I'm like I'm uh yeah I mean even just from like a production standpoint um and Arrangement standpoint there's there's there's a lot of talent in Texas there's a lot of musicians and producers in Texas that I don't think have been utilized you know the way that they should uh based on how talented they are and so I'm trying to just like go work with different like oh this is a dope drummer oh this is a dope producer I do like to work with musicians that are more like engineer producers um because it gives them a lot of perspective on like how a like record is really made and how it's finished from like start to mixing um and I think that that heavily influences like part you play and the tones you use and things like that so just collabor doing a lot of collabor like even just kind of jam session type things where we can develop sounds and stuff I'm doing a lot of that then writing with some different people there's a dude dude named Ross Cooper uh he's a Texas cat he lives in Nashville but um uh we've been we've been working on some tunes and uh and then there's a dude named chansy Williams he's from Wyoming and he's like the freaking you know you know the uh modern day Chris Leo out there you know and uh we're working on some like rodo Tunes uh because this new music I'm putting out is pretty heavily influenced by it has more of like a coyote type thing to it but it's pretty heavily influenced by Punk and like alternative 90s rock has more of a grunge thing um um but like a more of like a rootsy classic rock and roll uh but still all under like a kind of a cowboy aesthetic it's like kind like a rodeo Rock cow punk you know I gonna say what do they call it cow punk emo emo country sort of thing is a lot of those elements but a lot of energy ton of energy um yeah I'm collaborating with some different uh like I've even been writing some songs with some like Rodeo Cowboys that are not songwriters and uh we've been getting together and I'm like I'm wanting to to do like songs with them uh where I can get you know like I just get ideas from them and stuff and then we can write it together and then put out like an EP where they're like featured on it you know they don't play or sing on it or whatever but we wrote the song together but they're like big time Rodeo Cowboys I just think that would be like the coolest thing ever it's fun to do because like they've never done it they don't know anything about like music or anything but we can just sit there and Bs and they can talk about some things that I'm like okay and I can we can put it together and then they can have fun with it and be like oh [ __ ] well that that's actually pretty good I'm like I see like I don't like I think everybody's a songwriter everybody's a creative like you can do it like driving down the road in your car and humming a melody and putting some lyrics together that's songwriting like I'm sorry there's not some badge of honor that you have to you don't have to go to school and get some diploma to be able to to do it it just literally is doing it so yeah it's just trying to find like cool unique creative ways of just you know doing something fresh no that's cool mate I mean you've you've um been through the meal you know starting out and and getting to where you are now and you know I talked to a lot of um upand cominging you know real young artists at the moment and he's trying to find out you know from from the established guys or the people that have have been there and done it or or going through emotions now what what sort of advice would you give to those guys that perhaps you wish you knew a bit earlier on or someone had told you is there anything that you could perhaps tell those [Music] trying to think of something actually helpful uh not just something like inspirational um trying to think of something practical oh well here's like a practical thing I had somebody really early on tell me it told me don't expect anyone to do any for you do it all yourself don't expect anyone to do anything for you so I really took it to heart and I took the mindset you can either get on board this train or not but it's heading in this direction and whether or not you want to contribute is it going to have any effect on what I'm going to do because I'm just going to make it happen even if you say you're going to do something for me there's a chance I'm going to do it anyways because I'm not expecting you to even do it and most of the time they wouldn't what I found out so that same person that gave me that advice also later on told me I just I just can't you know I can't deal with you you just you know you don't let anybody do anything for you right you're like impossible to work with two headstrong and I was like what I was like you literally told me not to expect anybody to do anything for me so there seems to be this balance that I haven't ever figured out I'm not a great salesman so uh because there's an element of sell especially in Like Show Business there's like an element of selling yourself that uh I just don't like to feel like I'm bsing people or or you know like even if I have a cool opportunity that might happen if it hasn't happened yet I don't really like to tell people because then it just feels like I'm just just you cheesing them up like I I just don't like to do that which kind of hurts you in this industry because people I don't know like people will sort of describe you how you describe yourself and if you're almost too self-deprecating and too like oh I'm just grinding you know that's what they'll say they'll be like yeah I think he's really struggling you know I don't know if how well he's even though you're just like trying not to be a douche you know like you're doing good you're having fun you're crushing it but you're just going like yeah you know I'm just trying to make it happen you know but what are they going to say to somebody else they're going to be like I think he's just kind of trying to make it happen you know so it kind of that you don't want and uh I've probably done that to myself at times but you kind of have to come to grips with like I just can't be the dude at the bar like talking about like man I had this right with this guy yesterday and I'm going over here I got this man this record label and just like going on I just can't do that so I guess the advice is like you have to find this balance of of uh of of of being headstrong enough to know what you want to do and sort of guard yourself where most everybody's going to let you down and not do what they say they're going to do and you have to be willing to like just pick up the pieces where they left off and just keep moving forward uh but don't do that so strong to where you kind of shut people out because you do need help from some people and you can kind of be off-putting almost maybe intimidating uh in ways and it might prevent you from having opportunities that might make it easier for you you know um so that would be my longwinded quotes you know Jared Morris's you know quote of the day no that's awesome it's no no [ __ ] advice you know it's uh no [ __ ] that's what people want to hear you know what's the reality of things in in the industry and some people ham it up and some people kind of fake it and sometimes you need to hear the reality of of what it is you know yeah but if you also so for instance my band for the longest time like guys in my band I just wouldn't tell them anything really so they would like never really get any good news right it would just be like we go play an empty bar and like but I never wanted to feel like I was trying to convince to stay or like you know bsing them or anything but that's a tough ask like if they don't know any good things that are going on like that's kind of that's tough to expect them to like you know so you have Wonder while it's sticking around there got to be some pot of gold at the end of it isn't it yeah exactly exactly exactly yeah no that's cool and and just moving on slightly mate you know you've got a really cool podcast that I've been watching lately called the Jared Morris Vibe and you've had some awesome AR on there that I'd love to speak to as well people like re rickets and William Clark green you know these these guys people within your the circles that you mix in are these are Texas based artists as well aren't they yeah yeah they're they're mostly texas-based guys uh yeah cool cats um yeah I know a lot of people I have on the podcast I've never met before so which is kind of interesting I like to do that too because I I that's why I kind of like podcast it's like the and I don't really like to talk to them that much before I have the conversation because I kind of like that you know live on camera like you're both figuring out there's like a rhythm to a conversation you're both trying to figure out each other and there's like almost a clunkiness to it which is real you know like it's not filtered it's real and I like that you know and then there's genuine surprise you know if you were to talk to somebody for 20 minutes before you know you might find out they just had a baby but then your question in the podcast might be kind of like so it might be more like well so you told me off camera you had a baby which is kind of a lame question wouldn't you be like what's new in life anything new then they're like well I just had a baby and then you'd be like oh damn but genuine surprise you know so it's like I I like it being like free flow which sometimes can put you in a real pickle too if you don't know what's going to come out of people's mouth oh for sure for sure you know we're quite laidback on this podcast we'll have a beer we'll have a whiskey and sometimes we we don't know what we're going to say to be quite honest with you it gets a bit hazy towards the end but uh we keep at it man but no it's it's difficult because doing these things like you say I we've never met before but it's trying to have some kind of real conversation is it I'm I'm not a a radio host you know it's not this kind of fake kind of banter back and forth it's trying to ask the the real kind of questions that I think people might be interested in having a bit of a laugh along the way while we do it you know it's it's got to be fun y say having a gas is that a thing no not over here mate it's having a laugh that's what we having a laugh people don't say no no that's something that's something different over that's like passing wind over [Laughter] here I don't know why thought that that was uh having a gas yeah that's something that my M moans at me constantly for yeah is that how you say it having a having a having a laugh you mean sorry no I know but if you were to fart like how would they say it I know it would be passing gas or yeah or farting so yeah having a gas it means something slightly different here dude no it doesn't it doesn't mean it means the same thing here so I don't know I was under the assumption I don't know why I feel like in my head somewhere I thought I had heard somebody in the UK say having a gas maybe I thought they meant laugh but they actually we just talking about fart that is a high probability yeah we got low brow humor here mate that's pretty but it's uh no it's interesting talking to you guys because there's there's a lot of dialect uh yeah differences but but um so so the podcast is going really well I mean how many how many episodes have you done now have you got any kind of um episodes lined up yeah we I think we've done 20 maybe 19 I think we've done 19 and uh yeah there's a couple more there's a comedian that we just did uh and then yeah we've got a few more lines end up in like December um some more like Texas songwriter types um and then there's a couple pretty big ones too that I'm gonna have on there it's it's tough I I do it in person so it's like that was kind of my thing with the podcast it's like there's some guests that um I've been able to get but I didn't want to do it on the video screen yes I wanted to do it in person like when we did one with Parker we went to the venue that he was playing at we went and set up there and did the whole video podcast thing so I just I like to do it in person so it's like if I can't get them in person I just won't do it which kind of sucks because there's some guests that I want to get that I probably could get but I don't know it's just no I totally get that I'd love to meet more people in person but obviously being in the UK we we we don't have um as much opportunity but next year in fact I'm planning because we got people like kby T um Helms I think his name is and and a few other people coming over to the UK and I thought you know what I'll take my my camera that I've bought I'll go meet them before they gig and we'll do some inperson podcast just to mix it up you know it's nice to have that proper interaction rather and like I say it can be a bit clunky over teams and you know these video conferences it's it's not quite the same same is it but um no that's cool I mean is there any any people that you've met through the podcast or through through the shows you've been doing that your kind of fan fanale moment over anyone that you've been Star Struck [Music] over it might be good that the like the people I was raised around were kind of an like an irreverent Bunch you know they were a very just like pretty blunt type people uh and you know like it didn't really matter how much money you made or like where you come from or like they're just going to they're going to talk to you how they talk to you regardless and so I think that was kind of bred into me in some ways so I have a level of irreverence like that which is probably a good thing uh especially doing like a podcast but you know who's like so Parker dude Parker when people talk about that whole like it Factor thing uh that dude it's just different man like he just walks into a room and the room just is different like for real it's just like God like he makes you just kind of like freaking pull your shoulders back a little more like he's one of those guys like when you stand next to him you just kind of feel like you're like yeah I'm kind of a badass I guess you know what I mean explain that so when people talk about somebody having an IT factor it's like well that's probably it that's what that is and you can't I don't have that you know like I don't know what that is but he's got it so uh Star Struck no but uh he's a cool cat but but more like in in like an observational way it was like damn what what is that I'm not you don't see that very often I don't know what that is so what is it like you say and it doesn't mean you have to be like the biggest extrovert in the world to kind of light up a room you know to could be the quietest guy is going and there's just something about him isn't there that that like you say you can't describe it what is it I wish I had it yeah yeah you're telling me yeah no yeah people just want to punch me yeah I have the opposite weekly by the sounds of it I have a punch face yeah only in Nashville seemingly I it really is it's like it's in Nashville I have a punchable face oh was hilarious man have you you got any plans to come over to the UK mate I ask every guest because I'm just wishing more people came over here you know like yourself and Adam Hood people I speak to I'd love to see you over here yeah it'd be super cool I don't have any plan but it would be cool it'd be real cool yeah I would love it and I've always heard people talk about like even going over into uh like Mainland Europe and then over into the UK like everybody I ever talk to that goes out there and plays like they always have the best time and and the um the crowds and stuff they say are just like so cool and respectful and they're so into it uh it would be really cool it'd be real cool we we got some people coming over next year I believe like LV Shane and Carl Daniel and it's um it's interesting I'm starting to see more of it happening not enough for my liking because we're still getting you know the big Arenas where you got country to Country Chris stapletons and you know people are even even you know the tickets I've got for Sturgill Simpson it's not a huge Arena it's quite a a smallish place in London so he even you know he's not selling out the massive Arenas yet um yeah so it's just interesting and you know speaking to my co-host and we have these Grand ideas as we always do um you know we're going to set up the grand old Revival something like that where we're going to have a our own Festival because you know speaking to my my friends in the industry and other artists it's like you know if nobody else is doing it why don't you do it you know and I think well yeah why why don't I do it mainly because I have no bloody experience and I have no clue what I'm doing that's why I haven't done it but you know that that is a good reason that's a good reason um I can learn you know I've learned how to do podcasts and you know so things so far um so why not why not a festival when we bring you know Jared Morris over and you other people that we enjoy so that that is something we'd love to do anyway anyway I'm waffling on about stuff that probably never happen man you got a dream you do it let me know man awesome man look I I appreciate your time I know you probably had a really busy day busy week and uh you just want to get get back uh to to chilling out mate so I I really thank you for coming on the podcast Jared um where can people find you what are you up to mate uh yeah I mean it's all just social media website you know farmersonly.com is that like an only [Laughter] fans only F yeah only fers I've not heard of that one music all the time so yeah definitely I probably put something out you know awesome look um thank you again mate and uh to the gr the grind and the Revival Jared it's been a pleasure mate take care cheers m
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