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Sometimes the best discoveries in country music don't come from algorithmic playlists or industry gatekeepers. They come from a music writer's Substack newsletter passed along to a radio host who actually knows his stuff, which then reaches an audience of true believers scattered across the country and beyond. That's how Emily Love and her band The Highliners found their people—and it's a story that says everything about what makes roots music thrive in 2024.

Portland, Oregon isn't the first place you'd expect to find a fiercely unapologetic 90's country revival, yet here we are. Emily Love, a first-time recording artist, has crafted something that feels both refreshingly contemporary and genuinely rooted in the twangy, high-energy country sound that defined the decade most people have spent years trying to distance themselves from. The Highliners aren't here to apologize for their influences. They're here to remind you why that era of country was, frankly, electrifying.

There's nobody telling me what to do or what not to do. I can be super weird and off the cuff, or post political stuff. I can do whatever I want.

Emily Love

What makes Love's trajectory particularly interesting is how it reveals the changing landscape for independent artists. She's navigating the overwhelming expectations of modern music promotion—the TikTok virality chase, the endless content creation, the algorithmic gambling game—with refreshing honesty. Rather than stress about going viral or gaming Spotify's editorial system, Love has leaned into something far more valuable: genuine curation and authentic fandom.

Enter Donnie Cutler, a LA-based music writer whose Substack newsletter Country Cutler has become essential reading for anyone serious about contemporary roots music. Cutler didn't just write about Love's music; he actively connected it with Sean Burns at Boots and Saddle and DJ Salty Cracker down in Austin. These aren't passive playlist algorithms. These are real musicians and historians who understand the context of what they're championing, who ground their recommendations in genuine knowledge and passion.

I was feeling overwhelmed. Like, do I have to figure out how to go viral on TikTok? That just sounds daunting.

Emily Love

This distinction matters profoundly. When Sean Burns plays a track, he brings his own musical credibility and storytelling. When he talks about meeting musicians in Calgary or reflects on his own journey through country music, he's providing context. He's creating meaning. That human element—the curator as artist, not just gatekeeper—is what builds communities of listeners rather than passive consumers. The audiences these DJs reach are early adopters and true music fans scattered across the country and the world. They're the kind of people who will follow a song they love to the ends of the earth.

Love's album has an admirable lack of filler, the kind of cohesion that suggests an artist who knows exactly what she wants to say and how to say it. The songs are high-energy and unabashedly twangy, but they're never precious about it. There's a playfulness to The Highliners' approach, a willingness to embrace the earnestness of 90's country without drowning in nostalgia or irony. In a genre that's often torn between its heritage and its aspirations, that feels genuinely radical.

What strikes you about Love's approach to promotion, though, is her honesty. She's learning as she goes, acknowledging the overwhelming nature of the advice industry while finding comfort in independence. There's nobody telling her what to do. She can be weird on Instagram, post what matters to her, and build something authentically her own. That autonomy is rare and precious, particularly for artists in their first cycle of releasing music.

The organic growth Love has experienced through trusted tastemakers rather than algorithmic chance feels like a blueprint worth paying attention to. It suggests that in a landscape cluttered with automated playlists and manufactured virality, the artists who'll matter are those who find their way into the hands of people who genuinely care about music. Not as content, not as data points, but as something worth advocating for.

If you've been sleeping on Pacific Northwest country, or if you simply miss the unironic, full-throttle energy of 90's country at its best, Emily Love and The Highliners deserve your attention. The full podcast episode offers deeper insight into how a Portland-based band is building something real in a music landscape that often feels anything but.

[music] Um, welcome everybody. I am Brad, Slim Chance Cowboy. I am here with the talented uh, Emily Love. >> Hey Brad. >> Thanks Emily for taking your time out to meet me. West Coast, East Coast time. Uh, so we got this all figured out. Um, first and foremost, I'm a huge fan of your album that came out. Um, it's probably been I have rotated it. It's it's one of those that has no fillers. So, it's just like like every song is just I mean it's it's really good. So, it's been one of my favorite uh releases so far this year actually. So, um so having said that, I'll jump right into it. Um I discovered your music via the Boots and Saddle uh podcast. Uh shout out to Sean Burns. Um so that's he said he it it immediately caught my eye caught my ear, sorry, attention and I was like, whoa, what is this? It was one of those moments like this is great. So, do you find it difficult as an indie artist to promote to promote your music and then is that really something that you're concerned about? Because some really aren't. They're just putting it out and they're having a good time and and you know, country music is the genre where kind of like my finding you with dance a little closer was a song. It takes one song and that's it takes one song and it can resonate and you got a fan for life and there's a word of uh country music has a great grassroots and kind of word of mouth. So is that something that you are even that you even care about or how hard is that for you to kind of get your music out there? >> Yeah, I mean I think it's really cool what happened uh with Sean Burns. I'll tell you a little bit more about how that all came to into play, but this is you know this is my first band. And this is my first time like releasing music in a real way on my own. And so I'm just like learning as I go, just trying to like get it out there, see what happens. Like there's a million things that you should do and there's a, you know, there's a lot of advice out there and it doesn't always apply to independent artists. Um, I say the cool thing about being independent is like there's nobody telling me what to do or what not to do. I can like get on my Instagram stories and just be like super weird and like off off the cuff or like post political stuff. I can do whatever I want. So that's positive, right? >> And and I think that's great. Yeah. >> Um but the the it's really exciting because I was feeling overwhelmed. I was like, "Oh my god, how am I supposed to promote this and do I have to like, you know, make all this short form video content and do I have to like figure out how to go viral on TikTok?" Like that that just sounds daunting. It's not even that I'm necessarily opposed to it. It's just like I don't know how. Um, so with our first single, and I don't know how he came across it, but a music writer in LA named Donnie Cutler, who has a really great Substack. Yeah. Um, Country Cutler. So, I I still read his weekly newsletter. >> Um, it's very like digestible, too. Like, it's a quick, easy read. Um, he found our single, he wrote it up, but then he also sent it to Sean Burns and DJ Salty Cracker, who I actually can't remember, >> John Austin. Y >> down in Austin. And like it kind of went from there. And the the cool thing about um these FM radio shows is that uh both of these DJs are like, you know, real like country music fans, country music historians. Like they literally curate things. They provide context. they talk about, you know, Sean's a true musician, so he'll be like, "Oh, yeah, when we were down in Calgary, like I met the oh, nicest guy, you know, and that's so interesting to hear." So that like I' I always love radio. And so I think that's really special and cool. And then like, you know, same thing with uh DJ Salty Cracker and Austin. Like these are like handpicked things. And so because of that, they have audiences that are like early adopters and like true music fans like all over the country and all over the world. And I just feel like really like I really feel like we struck gold by getting them to like promote our music because um those are the people that matter. And you can't really get that through getting on a Spotify editorial playlist or you know whatever you're quote unquote supposed to do or even like you could maybe go I don't know you could maybe go viral on TikTok but that might not be people who are necessarily like music fans and so it's it's >> exactly >> so cool to have that like organic growth. Um and it's also been um encouraging for me because I'm like I'm overwhelmed like how do I promote my music? What am I supposed to do? And it's like just keep going, just keep sending stuff to people, doing stuff like this. Like this is really cool. >> Yeah. And like, you know, um I feel like I'm kind of in involved. I'm gonna go off on a little tangent here. Uh but >> I feel like I don't want to call it meteoric. I don't I can't say that word. Meteoric rise. I I feel like I I heard your song, the album came out, and like I'm seeing I'm seeing like your stuff everywhere and all the people that we follow. I I feel like it's been really fast. You're kind of, >> you know, ascending a little bit. I'm I'm I'm seeing your your single cover and stuff on many uh podcast and and um those guys like Salty Cracker and and Donnie Cutler. So I I feel like it's kind of it this wasn't somebody that like you saw a YouTube video of and then it's like oh coming out next year and like for me at least when I got when I got introduced to your music, it was like your album was out like a month later and it just seems you're everywhere right now. So it's it's kind of cool. But um >> yeah, you mentioned uh Donnie, he's um we talk a a little bit. Um, he probably doesn't know this, but kind of like uh he's like world class with what not world class, but what he does is really cool and I'm it kind of as I'm uh kind of dipping my toe in this kind of new thing. Um, I'm kind of looking at some of his stuff and I'm like, man, it's really well. He's a really nice guy and he's he does he's a great he's a great interview interviewer >> and his content's really good. And actually, >> when I put that thing out on my story as about two months ago, I wanted to do something different and that's how I got involved with the rugged revival. It was DJ Salty Cracker cuz I put on the crack uh put on the story that uh I hate the sound of my own voice. And [laughter] um so I'm kind of getting over this a little bit. He was the one that responded. We kind of chatted back and forth and he was like, "You just got to do it. I don't like my voice either." So um yeah, it's kind of cool that you mentioned those two guys because they're uh I love DJ Salty Salty Crackers. Some of his playlists are so deep of stuff and it's like how did how did he find this song? Like >> Yeah, it's it's so cool. Like um I also want to say about um Donnie Cutler. I super appreciate he is like proactive about supporting women musicians and I love that and like he >> uh and he like he walks the walk. He doesn't just talk the talk and like >> I want to give him a big shout out for that. And but yeah, also his stuff is like uh he'll do you know his weekly release thing but then also these little like think pieces. There's a great one about I can't remember what the sort of motion movement was called, but this like early like late 80s early 90s like Austin scene that the derailers came out of, which I really loved that sound, but I'd never >> I love the derailers. Yeah. >> I'd never thought about it or thought about like how that came to be. and his writing on it was a really concise for our short attention spans right now that well researched and like I learned something about music and I'm just loving that that's all coming back like we're saying like these people are they're researching stuff they're finding like older music and they're exposing you to new things where it you can really take that for granted like I think it there was and I fell into it too even though I'm like a music fan and a musician you kind of just get like spoonfed whatever music but to have people really going out of their way to stuff is just super cool. So, yeah. >> Yeah, definitely. And I I might have a blog post on the Rugged Revival website about women of Honky Tonk and Country in general because they've kind of been killing it, actually. So, I mean, it's I feel like I feel like the past couple years, my top 10 albums of the year, I mean, like seven or eight of them are like women. It the the music's just fantastic. Um, so yeah. So, your your your album is full of like raw high energy honky talk. That's what I'll call it. Um, and it was, like I said, it was a breath of fresh air when I heard the when I heard the single, all three singles, and then heard the album. >> What inspirations did you draw from while setting out to make the record or uh that the process of how the songs came up? I don't know if these songs were long living with you or something that just inspired and came up. >> Yeah. Um, it's interesting like some of some of these songs there's one uh there's one that it's called Boots or Boots in my closet on the record that I I have had that one for a while. I recorded like kind of a bluegrass version of that >> in 2015 in New Orleans that you can like deep dive my band camp to find >> different. Um, but [sighs] yeah, for the most part they all came like all of a sudden I'd gone through like a really tough like my my 2020 like COVID arc was like really really tough and then I started going back out again in the Portland honky talk scene after not being plugged into it for a while. >> Yeah. >> And it was super inspiring. I was so excited. I was having a lot of fun and I was like doing social stuff and I was doing twostep and uh dancing and like that's also like it's really good for you. It's like really good for you like emotionally physically. There's like actual studies that found that and I just was like I just want I want more of this. Like I want more of this in the world. This is the music I want to hear. And then also, you know, I had my little like sort of internal jokes and gripes and like kind of funny stories that happened or or some of them are some of them are real, some of them are imaginary, but it was just what I wanted to hear. It was like what I wanted and what I was um enjoying in the world. And it also finally felt okay to to like like and make just straight up like fun kind of cheesy country music. And I think for a while when I was coming up starting to play music, I thought it all had to be like >> serious art highways like we love towns and like that's just not really me. >> Yeah. You know, I didn't really think about that. Let's because your album is again um I mean look um uh you know I could probably point out all kinds of George Jones stuff here in my in my main >> I love George Jones. Yeah. >> I love I love sad bastard music is what I heard Vincent Neil Emerson call it when he was on stage. But um uh having said that though, I didn't really think about that. Your album really does not have a true like ballad, but it is all it's dancing music and it's it's fun. I think that's why I enjoyed it so much cuz it was it was such a contrast to some of the sad music that I'm constantly listening to and it and it's and it's actually good. So, it's it's it's funny you bring that up because I didn't really think of that of that angle while listening to your record. It is all fun, you know, very modern but also very steeped in tradition. It's it's a nice little blend. >> Thank you. Yeah, it's good. >> Yeah. So, actually on the on the tail end of that, uh my next question, what would what would you consider your musical like tapestry? I know some people can go on for hours and hours about this. I know I can. I have a bluegrass background and then all all kinds of other stuff, but um and then um differing from that or I'm sorry, as a followup. >> Yeah. H >> how did your solo work differ than before you were at the Highlanders? Because I I did do some research on you that you were doing some solo stuff before you formed your band. >> Yeah. Um the the way back of like how I got to first hate and then love country music is when I was a kid, you know, in the the millennial. So, you know, like 90s I was a kid. My mom was really like I could name like three albums that she was just on heavy heavy heavy rotation and that is um Howal Ketchum Past the Point of Rescue. >> Incredible album. so sad. [laughter] Like the saddest >> the song about >> I miss my Mary which is about being like an old sailor who's like drunk in a bar missing his like I don't know day or gone ex. It's like in it's insanely sad. It's very good. I think it's one of the best country albums ever. Uh Clint Black Killing Time. >> Fantastic album. Yeah. >> Randy Travis I think it's old 8 by10. >> Okay. You know, it's the one where he's on the logs. >> Yes, that's old by 10. Yeah, the the the log cover. I knew that. Exactly. Yep. >> Yeah. Heavy rotation. And then um Bonnie Rate. She was listening to a lot of Bonnie Rate, too. I just remember coming home and being like, "Oh no." Like mom's mom is listening to the country music like she's >> sad. There's there's a there's a banana bread in the oven and chili's on the stove kind of stuff. Yeah. >> Yeah. And I was like, "Oh no." Um, but then like it just got in my head and like it uh I was like into punk as a teenager and in my early 20s and then there's that pipeline like it just happens where like you have some older friends who like I literally remember going into a record store and like some old record store guy just giving me a stack of like he gave me a stack of like Kitty Wells, >> Paty Klein, um Lynn Anderson. He just was like here check these out. [laughter] >> Nice. And then when I started playing music, which was kind of later, I mean, I'd played guitar since I was a teenager, but um I was doing Yeah. like simple bluegrass just and like busking because that was within my abilities. And uh and then I remember hanging out with a lot of like bluegrass and oldtime people and I would just be like, "Yeah, but what about this Dan Seals song?" And they'd be like, "Oh, [laughter] brother." I'm like, "No, no, but like really listen to it if you like like the song itself is so good and like the song structure and like the lyrics are great." That like wasn't cool at the time. So, I'm I'm very glad that um all the like it's it's I'm glad country is cool again, honestly. >> You know, it kind of is. I mean, I don't think it ever was not cool, but it definitely having is having a moment. And your your tapestry is very similar to mine. My mom was top 40 and >> um but she had uh she had the Billy Ray Cyrus cassette in the car. >> Oh, yeah. Um, yeah, of some some gave all with Icky Breaky Art, of course. Um, she had a Reeba cassette in Alabama, but it was a lot of um it was it was a lot of top 40 and my dad was I I get the classic rock from my dad, but he was also very big into Bakersfield stuff. So, >> he he wanted his country music to be bootapp. I mean, he would probably love your album. I should I should probably get him onto it. But he he he like I remember when I I gave him like a >> uh he was listening to like a Maverick's album. I think it was What a What a crying shame. And he loved that. you know, Ro Mallo is a but yeah, my my dad loves Dwight Yokum and Buck Owens and Merl Haggard. So, um and then my grandparents were bluegrass pretty prominent bluegrass musicians in this area. >> Oh, cool. >> So, I had that and then also like you said in the late 90s I was a teenager so it was corn limp biscuit Jean Co Jeans. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And then I got my driver's license and I like bought a I had a pickup truck and I bought a flannel shirt because I'm like yeah I got a truck now. And it was Alan Jack. I bought an Alan Jackson CD and then I went back just like you said you and then I started my discovery mode. So yeah, we had kind of a similar tapestry. It's it's kind of funny. >> Super funny. [laughter] I was I meant to say also like at the time that I was writing this album, I was listening to so much Bob Wills. Even though this this album isn't like super swinging, there's like one I think there's like one or two songs I think have a little more western swing. I was listening to so much Bob Wills and so much Buck Owens. It was just like and so much Dwight Yokum. It was just like in my [clears throat] brain. Um >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And that's why I like doing those little aides in the records like tell them all about it boys. I actually did a lot of those and we cut a lot out. They're like Emily got to stop doing the like Bob Wills aides to the >> aides or like uh like >> I picture uh uh Ernest Tub you know Leon. Hey buddy, every time you know Buddy Emmens played a steel break, it was like, you know, which is kind of cool. So that's that's that's really cool. Uh yeah, I actually just recently got into Bob Wills. Um I think as you get as I get older, I'm I'm appreciating different music. If if you would have gave me a Bob Wills record like 10 years ago, I'm like, yeah, it's like Jimmy Rogers, too. >> There's other stuff there. But now now I'm like, okay, I can kind of see how people took from this. And and I I really like some of the Bob So Bob Wills and like Lefty. I'm um kind of getting into a lot of that stuff. So >> that's cool. Um, >> so here's something I've been asking a lot of people. So I'm very intrigued and interested at all these like micro communities in country music. >> Um, I interviewed um Olivia Ellen Lloyd and she's in the New York area. We kind of we talked about that. We talked about that a little bit, but I do know the PNW shout out is actually pretty pretty strong. And you guys have I would assume have uh there's guys like Wes Yusi and Cassie Cassie Velza who is amazing. Um, Marggo Margot Silker, I think Nikico Case is from there. Um, and there's a plethora. I know I'm leaving out a bunch of people, but how what did you notice about the musical lineage and and how that might be how that might differ from like LA? Because I know LA has a I would say LA has one of the best country music scenes. People would probably never know of. They'll think of Austin or Nashville, but like LA's is pretty happening and um you guys are right up there. So, how does that kind of fit together? And I'm just so intrigued by all these different communities of music and like what has that meant meant me meant to you? >> Yeah, I I really chewed on this question and I wasn't sure. Um, yeah, spoiler alert, you present these to me, but um [laughter] I was >> courtesy. >> No, and I wasn't sure how to answer it. And it's funny because like you know, you're inside of it and you're like other places look cooler to you. You're like what what is it? I mean, I think uh one thing that has happened in recent years that has really helped our specifically our like country music scene is there's this guy James Jones who's also a musician. Um he's got a new record out right now under the ghost of James Jones is his artist name, but he runs an Instagram page called Honky Tonk Basement and it's all about just like promoting stuff in the scene. So, he just does like every week he does a calendar. He does like a post about shows that are coming up. He will go to shows and like take good videos and tag you in it and like that stuff actually really matters. Like it gets a lot of eyes on things and it gets people like feeling like they're part of something cohesive. So I think what we've seen in the little micro microboom inside of Portland in the past few years like since the pandemic has a lot to do with him and he deserves a lot of credit. It's not always like just the musicians, it's the people bringing the community together. Um, but yeah, like Cassie and Wes are people that I've known and like known around for a long time. Like they've been playing music for like I don't know like at least 10 years like I've been seeing them around and then it takes that long. It takes that long in music. Like it takes that long to build stuff out. Yeah. >> But I think that Well, here's my theory and it's totally just like my opinion made up. I think that the difference between like being in Portland or maybe like um Austin, Nashville, LA, and there's a million other scenes, but I know less about them >> is there isn't this like carrot of like music industry right there for you to be like, I'm going to get a record. There's no like record going to get in Portland. There's no like there's not going to be an ANR guy at your show in Portland. Nobody's going to >> discover you in Portland. Like there's there's a lot of music and there's a lot of musicians. But I think that in that way people just it's like a corny turn of phrase, but like they're really just focusing on the music for longer and they're not focusing on the music business part of it. And I think that makes people better. Like they just play for a really long time and get good and get dialed in. >> The game. Yeah. >> Yeah. And we have like some great venues that like make that that possible. like uh the Laurel Thirst pub and like the owner Louis Longmire are just like huge parts of like you know Cassie's coming up like I remember seeing her playing at like songwriter nights like working on her song craft like many many many years ago and now like [clears throat] he's >> part of her band and it's just like this really special place that you might not know about if you're not from Portland but >> it's this great like incubator for music and having having spaces like that and having people are going to come come out to shows and then just like like Wes like works. Wes is a great musician and he like gigs consistently and like you you just build that like music muscle by doing that. So I think that's my theory. I think that's it is that you're not just like trying to get noticed and I think you're at like maybe a more sustainable pace of playing music where you're not like doing the what I imagine Austin is like is you're just playing like >> Oh yeah, there's there's venues. Yeah, there's venues everywhere and and that there's there's pro and there's definitely I don't know if there's labels, but there's definitely ANR guys because it's such a hot bed of of of music, so they're they're probably snooping around. But I never thought about that angle. That's that's a very good point that, you know, Portland really doesn't have a big record label. So, they're just doing it for the for the love of the music and, you know, their craft. So, that's that's really cool. >> Yeah, I think so. And it's like totally that's just my guess. And then often we get people and you know you get bigger and you leave like you know Cassie's in New Orleans now and I think headed to Nashville soon. But um yeah I don't know what it is but we are having like a real moment and that's cool because I used to feel a little bit self-conscious about being like I'm a country musician like where are you from? Like Portland [laughter] like I'm a country musician. You're like oh I'm from Portland. They're like oh wow there's a lot going on in Portland. like, "Oh, yeah. >> I I I will tell you when I heard your song and I did some research, >> um that exact reaction would have been me like four, five, six years ago." >> Yeah. >> But I just kind of scrolled past it because I was like, "Oh, >> Portland." It wasn't that reaction of like >> It was It was more like, "Oh, Portland." Like, >> yeah, sure. >> Yeah. Chalk up another chalk up another artist from from from Portland because there there's there's I know I I left out uh a bunch. I'm sure there's some that I have their songs and I just don't know that they're they're from that area. But, um, >> yeah, >> that's really cool. So, >> I guess the last thing I had for you was what is on the horizon for you and the Highliners? And any plans for I know this is, you know, really hard to get out there as an as as an independent artist. You guys are 4,000 miles away, but any any plans for some major tours or East Coast maybe where I can come see a show? >> We've got like plans to make plans. >> Plans to make plans. Okay, fair enough. you know, the last two years we were hitting it really hard with like trying to play a lot of, you know, local regional gigs and just getting tight as a band, then really focusing on getting the album out. And then the beautiful thing about having the album out is now the album is out in the world and people can hear it everywhere. So, we have some contacts. Um, another great I'm sure Olivia might have mentioned this in your talk about the New York scene, but the Hawk Nest Shop in New York, like they had us on or they had me on for an interview for their radio show. They do honky tons up in New York. >> Talked to some people in Baltimore as well. Um, >> would that be Metro or >> who? Uh, what? >> Uh, let's see. Baltimore. Uh, there's Metro. There's um actually I'm more familiar with the DCC scene. I'm I'm I'm sure there's some stuff in Baltimore that I'm probably forgetting. Um the 8 by10 is one of them, I think, is the name of it. So, yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Uh I've got Yeah. I've got a friend Danny in Pennsylvania who's kind of putting us on to some stuff. I've been talking to um Ramona of Ramona and the Holy Smokes about her tips on the region. >> She's awesome. Yeah. >> Oh my god. Yeah. Talk about women killing it in country right now. I'm obsessed with her new album. It's very good. >> Oh yeah, I have it. Uh that's actually what my laptop is sitting on right now. Sorry, Ramona. >> That's Ramona. You are not just a coaster, Ramona. you are. You're on your album's on top of my stack. So, [laughter] >> yeah. So, we're hoping to like I would love to get out to the east coast. We've got theoretically we have the technology. Um and then talking to a lot of people in LA. We've got a lot of people who like our music in LA. So, it sounds like we could do a great run from uh Portland down to LA. There's great venues in Santa Cruz and some other places along the way. We'd like to do that. And then we have um When do you think you'll release this interview? Uh, I don't know. >> I will. Yeah. So, what I'll do is I'll upload it to the thing and my guy, uh, so the rugged revival is UK based, so he'll probably doctor it up tomorrow and it probably it'll probably come out like Thursday, Friday. That's my >> Okay, perfect. Then I then I can say this. Um, we're and then we have we are playing at Jacob Jamberee in Pendleton, which is that's tomorrow, but it's a really cool festival. >> That's a big deal. There is I have I have uh that is one of the shows that and Under the Big Sky and some other stuff that I've I have seen the lineups for Jackaloupe and I'm like holy that is an awesome lineup. >> Yeah. And I I didn't get to go last year. I had a wedding I had to go to but um I went the year before. It's a really special festival. I really like how the lineup is curated. Um, it's a great mix of I think kind of like your your like, you know, alt countryish stuff. You get stuff that's a little bit more folky and then you have stuff that I would call like >> I've invented this genre. It's called square toed boot country. It's like not bro country, but it's a little bit more like a little bit more. >> I I know exactly what you're talking about. And uh >> so you get a great spread of people. So, I'm I'm excited to meet the other artists and be involved in that because the the um organizer also just really does a great job of like promoting uh Pacific Northwest talent. So, it's like we're really excited about that. That's a big thing on our coming up in 2020. >> No square toes here. I'm cowboy snip toe. >> Yeah, >> I'm glad you know what I meant by that. I was like it's >> I immediately knew I was going to mention some names. I'm like, I'm not going to mention names, but I I I immediately knew what you meant. So, that's that's awesome. Actually, having you said that, there's um there's it's not a place, it's an event called Baltimore Honky Tonk. They they usually hold it at a brewery that is under the road, under the highway, but they also had it at um they had it at a at a ballroom kind of thing. It was like 110 degrees that night and JP Harris played there >> and >> it was that they went to dance the entire time. They want to twostep. So they had uh Ditch Curts was playing steel that night and they had I it was the first concert I've ever been at where I for a fact they had the steel monitor up on like 10 and like the rest of the band's stuff you couldn't even hear. So it was just unless I was just by that speaker but it was just steel guitar rubber rating people are two-stepping for like four hours. Um it was very very hot in that room that night but they do it it's the first Thursday of every month. Um, and they do it at a couple different places. And then so, um, I mean, I I know some of the people that run that. Of course, Baltimore is a far away from from Portland, but you guys would be That type of music you play that that high energy honky talk is perfect for what they do. >> Yeah, >> exactly what they do. And it's um, yeah, it's it was I had a blast that night when I saw JP Harris there. It was it was so fun. >> That sounds super fun. Um, yeah. But yeah, sorry about the like uh disjointed way. I might have brought up the um Jackaloup Jambbury, but we're really excited about that. And then I'm trying to build a little tour around that run. And then yeah, if people are hearing this and they're on the East Coast and would like to help us book a tour or would like to help us book a show on the East Coast, um my emails in our Instagram bio, I answer them. I don't have an agent yet, so it's just me. Uh same thing for the West Coast. If you want us to play, let me know and that'll really help us. It'll tilt our hand to coming to coming to see you. >> Great. Well, thank you so much. Um everybody, um Emily Love, the album um the album is out September 8th. It was out September 8th. Heart of a Fool. Uh Band Camp. Go to Band Camp, get the album, download it. I think it's the Is this something you've been doing or is it the best country album on Band Camp? Because I've seen you both. >> It is. No, it really is. We got a write up. Um, not it wasn't the best, but they did a list of the best country music on Band Camp. Uh, and it was among several other great records, uh, including like a Rodney Crowell album. So, it was really honored to be just even mentioned in the same breath as him, but it's a it's a nice write up. And Wesyy's album's on there as well. >> Yeah. Very, very good. So, I would I would implore everyone to find Emily, find her music. You know my adage. Go to the show, buy the merch, buy the vinyl, and um I want that Lo's sticker, the gas station. >> Oh, yeah. I'll mail you one. Send me your address. I'll send you one in the mail. Yeah, >> that's good. I mean, I'll I'll vend you the money for it, but it's it's that was such I I go to Love's gas stations all the time. So, it made perfect sense. So, >> we had hats, but we sold out of them, and they're they're very hard to mail. So, that's going to be like a shows only item if we make another round of one. But, yeah. >> Okay. Any any uh do you have vinyl in the works or no? I know that's a quite quite an expense to put out there. >> It's expensive. Again, if uh if you are wanting to collaborate on funding a vinyl run, uh I would be very open to that. Uh let's make it work. I have, you know, a great uh mastering engineer who can make that happen. I already know. I already have it priced out. I'm ready to go. So, >> it would it would definitely sound good on the on the turntable down here. So, >> yeah. >> Well, thank you. I'm gonna stop the recording. >> Yeah. Thanks, Brad. Okay. >> Thank you. Uh thanks for for your time, too. Yeah, appreciate.

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