Adara Kay - Southern Oklahoma Country Rock Artist with Grit & High-Energy Sound | Rugged Revival

lose [music] your love. [music] Hearts get broke, tables [music] turn you. This is the Rugged Revival podcast. [music] We are your home of the UK's country Americana and roots music community. This is our final podcast of the year. Um, so I think we're going to try and make it a good one. I don't know what I'm saying. I think we're going to try and make a good one, but we're going to at least make it Christmy. [music] That's what we're going to do. But we were just saying it's been a busy week. Ronnie is back from having his ass waxed and [music] bleached. Uh, it's probably too much uh information at this point. But you're full of Christmas cheer. And uh, you're ready to munch on a few mince pies, aren't you, mate? [laughter] Ho ho ho, TJ. Ho ho ho. Um, you did forget to say actually it's officially where all the cowboys and cowg girls come. >> Yeah, maybe I should slogan. Well, I I'll fix that for the new year. That'll be my New Year's resolution to to do things properly. Anyway, I'll stop waffling. Um, so on this week's show, we're very pleased to welcome someone that we met in Texas. We know a lot of people in Texas, but this is somebody who won the lottery. Uh, not just by meeting me and Ronnie, uh, but because she won all of our merch at Stocktober. It's Adara K. How are you, Ada? >> I'm doing wonderful. [laughter] >> See, we thought you'd put our merch on, especially for this show. So, uh, is it in the bin? You know, you could be honest with us. >> No, it's actually dirty right now. So, yeah. But I figured I would [laughter] stone. >> Fair do. She's been washing the car with it. That's what's [laughter] >> Adira won it in a raffle and promptly put it in the bin. >> Yeah, >> it's funny cuz there was a lot of stuff uh on on raffle that night. I remember there was a a beautiful signed uh guitar and some other prizes and unfortunately you walked away with our merch. Um but yeah. Did it feel good though to to win something? >> Oh, I've never won anything in my life so it was amazing. Yes. [snorts] >> Fantastic. There you go. >> But, uh, you know, I'm really grateful for you to come on the show and to be our our final guest of the year. Um, we wanted to talk to you. Uh, loads of people have said nothing but great words about you. People like Patrick from Country Versus Metal, Soul Gravy, you know, all of the cool people obviously. Um, and I think it was a good way to talk to you again because we were pretty pretty inebriated by the end of the night at Stocktober. So, I know we've got photo evidence that we spoke to you, but I don't don't remember a right lot at that point. So, I do apologize if we uh if conversation didn't flow particularly well at that point. >> I think we were on the same level. So, [laughter] >> that's good then. That's good. Are you ready for Christmas anyway? It's what 10 days till Christmas now. Are you all set? Are you excited? >> I'm very excited. Yeah. I love Christmas. going to spend time with, you know, my family, my husband's family, just all of it together. >> Fantastic. Is Is that what you kind of normally do to spend at home with the family? Do you go anywhere? >> Nope. We all live in the same county here in Oklahoma. So, >> there you go. Fantastic. Well, we've had a a really good year. I think me and Ronny were talking about it before we came on in terms of how much we've actually done on the podcast and you know just throughout the year in general and I know Ronnie you've particularly had a a fantastic year. You've really enjoyed yourself. You filled your boots and uh you know I've prepared you a little montage of your some of your moments. Are you uh would you like to have a look at it? >> I'd love to have a look at it. I really would. You're going to ruin my night, aren't you? Yes, you are. >> There you go. Well, this is Ronny's uh 2025. Let's play it. [laughter] So, this [music] is just a collection of fans, homeless people, >> and obviously women on holiday to Texas. >> [music] >> So, lots of pictures with fans on the tinkling the ivories. [music] Lots of pictures of pointing at stuff for some reason. >> Our biggest [music] fan right now. If [music] I only had I [music] move on quickly from that one. [laughter] had a go at presenting [music] >> and singing sort of [laughter] [music] >> say hello. >> Hello. He went to bes >> and you could tell by that ending. >> You had a good time, didn't you? >> Oh, you've made my life. You really [laughter] >> no expense spared on that production. But uh so yeah, just a few kind of um you know, flashback moments from from the year. Um, but yeah, before I kind of hand over to Ronnie, I just want to ask Ronny a few more things in terms of podcast facts for 2025 as well. And um, yeah, I've got a few questions for you before we we ask our guest a question. So, how many uh, podcasts you think we've done this year alone just for the Rugged Revival? >> Oh, 10. 20? I don't know. >> You're way off. [snorts] >> 30? >> Yeah, >> 30. Wow. >> Seems a lot. Who was the first podcast of this year? >> You've left me right on the limit here. [laughter] I I I have not researched it. Um I can't remember. Don't know. >> Eli Kane. That seems like an eternity. >> Eli. Yeah, it does. >> Yeah, little Eli. Um but yeah, we've done loads this year and we've done 12 Grit Session recordings with Joe, Cody, Josh, Alex. Um we've got two artists on our roster, Lance Rogers and Jonathan and Abigail Payton. six members of our funny little crew um that we have in the background providing extra content and uh other stuff. And talking about streams, so in terms of our podcast across all platforms, how many times do you think people have um streamed our show? >> 70 odd, 80 odd, 100 maybe way off. It's three billion actually. Um it's not as many as Cody Christian, but yeah, bit more than Joe Rogan. So I was quite impressed with that. Uh, most listened podcast episode this year. You should get that one. >> Uh, no. Go on. I'll let you go for it. [laughter] >> It's so far Presley Hale, but I I seem to know it's going to be a darer by the end of this. It >> is going to be a dare now. >> Absolutely. So, >> I I suppose just, you know, we are the number one podcast in the entire world. Um, we even took it to Texas this year as you mentioned, so we're properly famous now. And um yeah, I've enjoyed it anyway. So, I'll stop waffling now. And uh I hope you like that little introduction I did for you, Ronnie. And >> you know, TJ, I've got to say I you've ruined it now cuz I was going to be nasty to you for the last show of the year. But, um I I've got to say it's made quite emotional. Um but it's what a year it's been. And we've got to meet some fantastic people like Ada uh who's sitting with us now and you're boring her to death. So, sorry for that. But um it's what a lovely little rundown. Um and it's been an absolute pleasure with you. Um but uh I'm not dying. Let's move on. Uh so Adira, have you ever seen a gloomy turbet? >> Oh, gloomy what? >> A gloomy turbet? A fish? Gloomy turbo? >> I don't believe so. >> No. Would you like me to show you one? >> Sure. Absolutely. >> Sounds gloomy turb. That's the gloomy turbet. Now, we do this game all the time and we try and see which one is the gloomy turbet. Is it this one or is it this one? >> I'm going to say it's the fish. [laughter] >> Yes. All right, then. I'll let you off. Um, okay. >> Anyway, um, thank you so much for joining us on the show today. It's an absolute honor to have you on our last show and I've got a little surprise for you all, actually. So, TJ's got a surprise and I've got a little surprise. Can you bear me two seconds? Oh god. Do you regret coming on now Adara? >> I don't. This has been the highlight of my day. >> My earphone. [laughter] >> What is he doing? Oh god. So, merry Christmas and happy holidays to you all. >> Thank you. >> Oh, that's really awful. >> Is that meant to be a turkey? >> Yes, it's meant to be a turkey. Yes. Can you not see the Can you not see the little legs? >> Fantastic. I know last year I wore a little turkey in my head, so I found another one this year. Why not? >> Um, so Adara Adera, sorry. Uh, we have a Christmas pack lined up for you tonight. We have some games and some weird and wonderful questions. And just before we start, I'd like to show you some pictures I found. So, obviously TJ has done his little bit tonight. So, we've got some additional pictures coming up. That's TJ. Really happy to have you on the show. Can't wait. That's TJ number one. Then there's a little Christmas reminder of last year. That was a whole year today. Uh Rudolph was on my head last year. Now we got a turkey for you this year. >> So young. >> Uh I found this little cracker hiding in the corner somewhere. >> Oh my god. >> There we go. Look how young he is there. >> Uh and then last but by no means least, our little picture that we've already showed. And that is going to hang with pride in the back of the studio here. So, uh yes, um thank you so much for joining us today. Now, um I do all the deep personal stuff. Um, and I know it sounds a bit ridiculous now cuz I'm wearing a stupid hat, but um, I would love for you if you wouldn't mind sharing some stories of where you grew up, your childhood, uh, coming into your adulthood if possible. That would be amazing. >> Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I grew up in the same town I'm living in at the moment. Um, it's Lone Groves, Oklahoma. Very small town. Um, it's what I wrote my song, Parking Lots Over. Um, grew up listening to music, playing music. um moved to Nashville, spent three years out there, got my bachelor's degree at Middle Tennessee State. Um realized the grass isn't always greener, so I moved back home to be with my bands and we've been, you know, we've been killing it ever since. >> Been super super blessed, super happy. >> Incredible. And sorry, I'm just going to have to change this for a minute because I can't take it seriously. [laughter] >> We're obviously a serious podcast, that's why. That's better. That's better. That's better. >> There we go. >> Right. Let's [clears throat] get the Christmas stuff on. So, that's epic. So, when did you um when did you first think um that you were getting involved in music? Who are your Who did you listen to when you were growing up? Did you Did you grow up with a lot of country music artists? Did you grow up with rock? What did you What did you grow up with? >> I grew up with both actually. Um my mom was more of the rock music and then my dad was more of the country. So, I mean, whether it was Journey, Brian Adams, Bon Joy, or whether it was Merl Haggard, Paty Klein, Willie Nelson, >> uh, we constantly had music going through the house. And, you know, my dad and I, we would play a game and he would play a song and I would try to guess who the artist was or what song it was. Um, and then one of my favorite memories was I believe I was in second grade and my dad took me to a Rick Springfield concert at WinStar and we were sitting on the front row and he actually pulled me up on stage to sing don't talk to strangers and I believe it was that moment where like the adrenaline rush and everything, you know, I was seven maybe eight years old. I was like, "This is what I want to do for the rest of my life." I love the feeling. And I think ever since then, I mean, I used to always perform for all my family and friends growing up as well. So, it's always been a part of me to want to be an entertainer or performer. >> That's that's incredible. And did you was it like did you did you play a lot of instruments? Did you was it just a singing uh piece that you were doing when you were growing up? So from the sort of seven or eight when you first done that when you brought up to sing and which is incredible by the way that's that is nuts. >> It was insane. >> Um but having that you know excitement did you go on to then just continue singing or was it instruments or what was it? >> I I definitely kept on singing and then I started songwriting and then my dad was like you know you can't be a real songwriter if you can't play an instrument. So then he started teaching me guitar and going from there. So >> that's amazing. That's incredible. And did you when did you when did you think at what sort of age past the sort of seven and eight did you think right now he's getting pretty serious now? I think the songs that I'm writing are are where I want to be. This is what I want to do full-time. This is what I want to, you know, I want to my career to go. I believe honestly I mean I've always if somebody asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up I would immediately say a singer. >> Yeah. But I think the moment really clicked for me when I played my very first acoustic show um at 17 or at 18. I had just graduated high school and then four days later I played my very first show and that it was stressful because I was like I've never done this. I don't really know what I'm doing, but you figure it out along the way, and if you believe in it, you can achieve it. >> That's incredible. And were you with did you join up with anybody else during that time, or was it just purely yourself doing the acoustic set? And >> um so I'm not a great guitar player, so I asked somebody to join in on with me. Um his name is Buddy Tiner, and I just worked with his wife and grew up with them. have I mean as an adult I started growing up and hanging out with them and we would play music back and forth and have little little song swaps around a fire and everything. So he joined me on stage and then when I went to ACM at UCO my first two years of college it was a live performance um degree that I was in. They put me with a band and that was part of your semester and part of your grade was to perform certain songs with this band >> and then that's when I formed my first band and then we played our very first show. Um I think I was 19 at the time. So it was a year later I formed the first band show. >> You done so much in such a very short amount of time. It's it's incredible. Um that is that is madness. Um but yeah, thank you so much for sharing that with us. I really appreciate that. That's great. I'm not going to ruin any more of TJ's questions because I know he's going to ask you loads and I'm like, "Right, what about this? What about that?" Um, so I'm going to leave that for TJ. But just to just to end on a bit of a Christmas note, um, I I know that so I I visited New York uh, many, many years ago, thinking for Christmas, thinking it was going to be the Home Alone type of, you know, bit of it's all going to be busy and it's going to be Christmas, it's going to be snowing, it's amazing. and half the places were shut for Christmas cuz Thanksgiving was their biggest time uh apparently in New York. So, is it the same over in uh where you're from? Is it is Thanksgiving bigger than Christmas or is it, you know, is it all just the same? Is it, you know, is it a big is it a big celebration? >> I would say it's it's pretty similar to Thanksgiving. I think more businesses are closed during Christmas than Thanksgiving, but people here, we celebrate both pretty much just the same. Amazing. And uh TJ's already ruined my one one of my questions uh about what you're doing for Christmas. So um I'm not going to ask you that, but merry Christmas to you. Christmas to you and uh I'm going to hand over to TJ. I'll try and put my teeth back in as well at some point. >> I was going to say there you go. Well, yeah, it's it's interesting to hear, you know, we we like to hear people's life stories and, you know, we start from the very beginning. And, you know, I think from doing this podcast as well, we've learned a lot about America particularly because I would say 90% Yeah, absolutely. Like 90% of the guests we've had on are from the States. And, you know, in terms of our geography, I think if we went back to school now, Ronnie, we'd like be A+ students, I'd say. Um, >> I don't think so. [laughter] >> Well, maybe that's a stretch. Um, but yeah, I like to I like travel. I like travel shows. I'm a bit of a geek, armchair geek more than anything. Um, so I checked out where you're from. So it's Lone Grove, southern Oklahoma, isn't it? Um, what's it like there particularly, you know, for for somebody that would be visiting your area? >> Well, there is nothing to do here. We don't have a We have a mall, but it's like a ghost town. Um, and you have to go to Ardore for that. So, Long Grove, the best food you can get is at a gas station. Um, and that's that's about it. I mean, we're >> It's not a Bies, is it? Is it a Bies? [laughter] >> It is not a Bies. No, you got to go to Texas for that. Oh, man. >> Okay. >> Well, you've sold us. We're going to be there. Yeah, that sounds like a truly amazing place. >> Come on. [laughter] >> Actually, Oklahoma is on my bucket list. Um, you know, I I was I I'm obsessed with this travel channel called Jack Anley's Travel, funny enough. Uh, it's a YouTube channel and it's uh it's a couple of Brits. It's this fellow called Jack and his his uh wife, I think, page. And they go to like the most obscure places, not your typical kind of capital cities. They do a bit of that. But I love the fact they go to I think a recent episode they're in Oklahoma and this place called like Crossbar Ranch, uh, which is like a off-road ranch place. and I think it's about 40 minutes from you and it just looked so cool. Um, the weather looked great. Um, everyone seemed to have fun outdoors. We don't get to go outdoors much cuz the weather's [ __ ] disgusting. Um, but Oklahoma looked pretty good. Um, >> one way to describe it. >> Well, [laughter] you know, that's that's the British weather for you. Um, so yeah, I think Oklahoma is a place I want to go. And they someone described it as the last kind of free state in America. like truly free. Is that you know would you agree with that? >> I could agree with that. Yeah. >> Yeah. I'm trying to work out what they mean. Is that is that to do with like gun rights? Just just freedom in general? People say you can pretty much do whatever you want in this state. And I thought that sounds definitely up mine and Ronniey's uh street. We'll probably be arrested in two minutes. >> If y'all are anywhere near um on Christmas Day, y'all come over. Y'all can join our little fish fry that we do. [laughter] You're more than welcome. >> I'm getting on a plane. >> Let's go. [laughter] >> There you go. We don't want to make the Texans jealous because they recently made us honory Texans and we we take that very seriously. Um, but for you as a Are you Are you guys called Okeis? Is that is that kind of your nickname for Oklahoma? Um, what does it mean to be an Oke? You know, how would you describe it? >> Be an Okei. I mean, you're I'm basically like right on the border of Texas. I'm not super far from Texas, but I mean, same thing. I would say to be an Okei is to be free and you get to be what you want to be. Um, you don't really have to worried about being judged by anybody. So, I'm proud to be an Okei. >> I would say Okie from Skogi like Merl, but I'm not that. I'm from Mro. [laughter] Well, it looks fun. It sounds fun. So, yeah, I think uh that is going to be on our our list of places to go. And like you say, I didn't realize how close it was to Texas. So, even better, you know, we can go to Fort Worth and then up to up to your place. That that sounds cool. Um but yeah, I suppose talking about Texas and and obviously we we've mentioned it a couple of times, Stocktober. Uh this is where we we met you and and a bunch of other people as well that are you know either for the first time which was amazing or people that we've had on the podcast previously that we finally had a chance to kind of meet in person like Zach Wilkerson, Presley Hail and you know a bunch of other people. So it was fantastic. We we really enjoyed ourselves probably a bit too much uh as you could tell at the end of but uh how did you find it? How did you actually come to to be there as well? Do you know a lot of the people and Talabbo? >> Uh, yeah, Talabo definitely invited me out along with uh Patrick, Country versus Metal. Um, and I didn't know quite a few of the artists, but then there was some that I've only met online. So, it was very fascinating to me to be able to meet them face to face cuz behind a screen, you know, I could be 6 foot tall. I mean, you never know. And here I am almost basically a [ __ ] I mean, but on stage, [laughter] you can't really tell on screen on stage. So, it was really it was really nice to be able to meet certain people in person, especially, you know, Presley Hail. Um, she was an amazing person to meet at that Stocktoberfest. So, I was very honored to be a part of that evening. >> Wonderful. We we'd love to kind of attend more stuff like and I think everyone said that on the night it was uh quite a unique thing. you know, like you say, you either meet people online or you're kind of like ships in the night because you you're all doing your own thing. And, you know, to get everyone under one roof and, you know, to have a have a party, have some music playing, you know, it I wish we had more of this in the UK. Um, it was just fantastic. So, yeah, really pleased we got to attend and really pleased we got to meet you and, you know, now we can learn more about you, uh, as we go. So, in terms of um obviously Oklahoma, you know, I like talking about people's states when they come on just to find out more for ourselves as well. And you know, you've got some famous bands. A lot lots of bands in recent years come from Oklahoma like Turnpike Trouidors. Uh pretty sure Zack Bryan's uh Oklahoma too. >> Yes, sir. >> Yeah, pretty sure. Uh and obviously a whole bunch of other people. But in terms of like I think you touched upon it earlier, what were you listening to growing up and how have you injected that like influence into your own music? It's it's very fascinating to take my childhood versus, you know, my pre-adulthood versus the adulthood styles of music cuz and I think you can kind of hear all of it together and form whatever genre you would like to call me, whether that's, you know, western grunge or the alternative, southern rock, maybe slash new metal, alternative, whatever, you know, you want to consider us. But I mean, there's definitely influences like Paty Klein or um Linda Ronstad. I've always tried to copy some of their ways that they pronounce their phrases and stuff and try to copy my voice to match theirs, but then put my own spin on it for myself. But learning to sing alongside of, you know, massive singers like those artists has helped me find my own voice. >> Yeah, that's a great answer. And yeah, Paty Klein's definitely one of your favorite, Ronnie. Um, Linda Ronstat for me. Yeah, she's fantastic. >> Um, so >> I um I'm going to cover that off a little bit later with a question actually about female artist. Um, and and one of them is is Paty Klein, Loretta Lynn, um, Tammy Wette and and and that that crew that call the the legendary crew. Um, but yeah, I I I love them. I I grew up in old school country. um and and still love it to this day and and blast it as many times as I can outside the car window. So, uh Yeah. >> Yeah. All right. Well, I'll um I'll save those questions for you, mate. Um or should I trample on them? I don't know. Maybe I'll >> No, do do what you like. >> Do what I like. I normally do. >> You do normally. [laughter] >> So, you you've been releasing music professionally um since about two 2019. Uh, so I I like to troll through Spotify or Discogs or anything I can kind of find just to find out when you put your first kind of uh single out, your tracks. And it looked like 20 2019 for you, uh, which is still fairly recent, isn't it? So, talk us through that kind of uh, initial journey of, you know, actually recording the the stuff that you're writing, pulling it out there, and and some of the feedback or the response you got from that. >> Yeah. Um, so my first EP that I released We did that in house. We had no idea really what we were doing. Um, half the instruments are out of tune. My voice is, you know, either sharp or flat. But we were so proud of it to release it as our first stuff. And we got a lot of good feedback, but we realized that wasn't enough. We needed more professionalism. So, we went back to the writing board figuring out the sound that we wanted. Found a good producer. Um Dwight Hamlet actually from the White Lighters produced the stuff after um the first EP and he definitely helped us you know get in tune with what we were trying to do trying to succeed at with a new sound and you know we we traveled on that for a while as the Adair K project and then we started becoming more rock and not fitting into certain venues the way that we were supposed to getting booked as country band, but yet we were starting to play more rock covers and putting more distortion on everything. Um, so then if you listen to, you know, a girl can be, which I know that was one of the first releases as well, but that was the first transition of me truly finding the grit to my voice and more the direction that I was wanting to go. So, new releases will definitely have that sort of style on them, >> that flavor. In fact, that's the song I picked out and I think it's the the most played one uh on Spotify, but it's uh it's a great song. I like it. And like you say, you know, listening to your early stuff, um right the way through to now, I I can definitely hear more of an edge uh to to to your sound, more distortion, like you say. And um it's funny cuz I I think you described it as your alternative and I've heard a few people say that now and I think that describes it quite well cuz I suppose for people that aren't familiar, I've looked it up and it it's kind of they describe as a kind of country fused with rock, indie, emo, punk, and you know, it's a bit of everything. It's a bit of a a mis mish mish mash if that's a word. I probably just made that up. Um, but would you mind if you play just a snippet of uh Girl Can Be and um so people can have a listen? >> Please do. Yeah. >> Cool. Okay, let's go for it. [music] >> I don't know what you're talking about when you try to get out. I promise you that you still haven't seen just [music] how crazy a girl can be. Yeah, I like that one. And uh I can see why I I think the Texas scene would like you in your style, too, because uh I think if you listen to the likes of Jared Morris and and a few others, they they're kind of making um that that sort of sound. They're kind of deviating from the traditional country and and even rock sometimes. It's uh like you say, they're going down the alternative um route and you know, I can I can definitely hear that in what you're doing. So, it's interesting when you when you sort of listen to to people's comments and you see them when people are publishing songs um and they try and put it in a genre all the time. It's like, well, it's a bit rock, it's a bit punk, it's a bit country, it's a bit just it's just their style. Like, you don't need to put it in a genre. It's just your style. Just do what you need to do. So, um yeah, that's all I wanted to say really is just, you know, there is no such thing. Just just just say it's your style. It's good. It's good. You know, it's their style. >> Yeah. So that must be frustrating as an artist as well. Like you say, people expect a certain sound and then anything you release after that, people have that expectation. Even of us in our group, you know, we've had some some absolute muppets uh comment on music that we shared. Um because it's not strictly country. I mean, it's >> that's not country, is it? >> Yeah, that was one of the >> cover country. So, >> so I kind of changed the name to country Americana and Roots, hoping that would capture all, you know, your alternative rock and blues and all the other, you know, fun stuff that people should be listening to. Um, but yeah, that's great. And, you know, I I'm enjoying learning about your music and um so what what's next for you then, Ada? What what um have you what stuff you got in the pipeline? >> You know, we we're rebranding. I'll say that. We're rebranding a little bit. Um, stepping away from a Derek K and trying to navigate a new perspective on the music. >> Oh, that sounds like me. That sounds very exciting and it sounds like a lot of gossip. [laughter] >> You can trust us. >> Well, we're looking forward to it. Uh, is there any dates or is that just something for next year? And yeah, I'm trying to squeeze more out of you on that. >> It's definitely coming 2026, so we don't have too much longer to wait. >> Awesome. Well, we'll keep an eye out on your socials and whenever you do put it out there, we'll we'll we'll share it for you and uh put it out there. I'll be knocking at that door. [laughter] >> Can you tell us more? So, um >> out of interest, do we get a Christmas song next year? I honestly cannot tell you. >> Are you going to promise it now? >> I can't promise anything. >> All right, I'll keep the >> I'll keep pushing I'll keep pushing through the year. >> Yeah. The thing with me and Christmas music, um there's there's an inside joke between me and my bass player, and he calls me the Grinch. Okay. And that's what he he bought me like a Grinch poster for my birthday back in September. And so like Christmas music, I can listen to maybe two songs on Christmas Day and then I'm done. >> Oh, dar. No, honestly, it's a whole month for me. >> Even even coming up to the end of November is Christmas songs all the way. >> And uh yeah, I'll >> I'll I'll keep sending you Christmas songs at the at the end of next year. [laughter] >> All right, good. Well, I I'm so pleased we invited the Grinch onto our our Christmas episode. That's uh that's worked pretty well, isn't it? >> I love it. Funny enough, a lot of people have put out um Christmas songs this year. So, I've seen that Preszley's put one out, which is a cover of She's done an amazing job on it. I love it. Uh Adam Hood's put one out, I think, reluctantly. Um but I love it. I love anything Adam does. Um and a few other people. Um, so yeah, it seems to be the year for people wanting to, I don't know, put out Christmasy stuff. >> Well, next year's the big year for Adara. >> There we are. >> To put one out. So, there you go. >> Absolutely. >> Right. Move on. >> Okay. >> So, we we we're big on obviously um propping, not propping up, like supporting the independent scene. That's where we live. That's what we love doing. Um, I I just think it's the most incredible people, the most incredible music I've I've ever been involved in, ever heard. And more people should be getting involved. And, you know, as an independent musician yourself, um, it seems pretty supportive in Texas to seem from what I see, the people we interact with personally. Is that how you feel? Have you felt like you've been welcomed into whether it's your local scene or the Texas scene? What What has it been like for you? It it's been very welcoming actually. I mean everybody they help each other and I mean in this industry even out in Nashville like it it comes and goes and waits. It's almost like a class reunion situation like your graduating class. You see people start succeeding with each other that started with each other and then you see the next class that they're helping and then same thing like everybody just starts climbing it together. So I mean it's it's very welcoming. It's like a little home, little family. Um, especially like I said, reuniting with certain people and meeting certain people out October that I knew of but have never met. It was it was very it was like a breath of fresh air honestly. And we have some something similar here in Oklahoma. Um Blake Langford sets it up. He It's called Seventh Day Rebellion and it's about once every month on a Sunday because all of us perform on the weekend so we hardly ever get to see each other and so it's all of us artists. We come together one Sunday every month and we play a free show and it's just like a little networking situation. >> You get to see all your friends again, get to catch up and it's it's amazing. >> Fantastic. Yeah. I mean, we we've loved it and it's uh even as podcasters, we've been welcomed with with open arms and probably not now they've seen us in person and had to [laughter] interact with us for an entire week. Um maybe that door's firmly shut now. I I don't know. Hopefully not. Um but there you go. So, [clears throat] I think there's a there's loads of benefits to being an independent artist. You know, you've got full creative control of your music, how you put it out there, how you share it, who you interact with personally. Um, I I love those aspects of of what it is that you guys do, but what what is the kind of the annoyances for you? If you could pick one or two things that really kind of piss you off as a independent artist, what what might that be and what could the fix be to that? >> You know, it's that's a that's a tough question. That one's difficult to answer. it it's difficult in the sense of if you don't have you know a booker for you sometimes venues don't take you as seriously um whether they do the research on you or not which I understand a lot of people they're working hard and they're working overtime and I understand you can't reach out to everybody in one day or respond so half the time some some of those emails get left behind or forgotten about. Um, so that that's been a really difficult aspect of being an independent artist is just trying to get taken seriously and get booked. But once once you do and you make those connections with the venues or the managers, like you start making relationships and they start taking you seriously if you present yourself as professional. >> Yeah, that's good. Now, there's some good um good piece of advice as well for people perhaps new onto the scene and I I I suppose it can be frustrating and particularly if if people are short on patience and wanting to get to that next step of relationships with venues with with uh booking agents etc. that um it does come and you've got to present yourself well obviously. Um [clears throat] so in terms of um your fans and your followers etc. Um, I I love SP see everyone seems to be copying Spotify rap this year um because it's just fun fun to see fun to do. We get our own one for the podcast which is cool. Uh I know you artists get one uh as well and it's a great way to get your information some insights of of what's going well for you and perhaps even some like surprising information about where your music's being streamed and uh you know where those people are from. So, have you had any kind of surprises looking at your own Spotify rap in terms of where your listeners are based? >> Yeah, we were our top place was Spain. I was like, we've never even been down there. We've never left the states. We've never left, you know, the Midwest. I was like, how are you finding my [clears throat] music? It's it's amazing. And if you look at, you know, like the top 10 places, like every single one of them was in Spain. >> Wow. It was >> really cool. That's incredible. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's It's funny how many people have said that to us. You know, I've checked and there's been places like Brazil, South Africa, and you know, we had Nigeria on our on our podcast this year. Might just be one person that accidentally stumbled on our podcast, thought, "What is this rubbish?" Um, so, uh, so yeah, even even ours was a bit of a surprise, but uh, fantastic. Well, thanks for entertaining me and my questions. I'm going to >> Well, well done, Spain. I've got to say, well done Spain. you know, good quality when you see it. So, there you go. >> Yeah. Yeah. I'd like to say Spain like to rock out. Um, maybe they do. I don't really know, but we obviously do now. Um, anyway, I'll shut up and uh hand over to to Ronnie before I stop babbling on. Really? No, you've done very well. They're very difficult questions actually for your set. I've um I was sitting there thinking, hm, interesting. >> Um, Adera, I I've got to say, we we had a conversation earlier offline. Um, and as in me and TJ, not me and you, but me and TJ. Um, and we were talking about maybe organizing a visit again. So, we're obviously obvious obviously over in Texas >> uh this year. So, we need to do a bit of a revisit. Um, is there anywhere that you would suggest definitely going to? So, try and arrange it for did you say the last day in the month for that >> free show because we like a freebie sometimes. >> Yeah. Uh, and then we might even stop at Stocktober. But where would you suggest? >> I would suggest there's two places. >> So, one of them is the Gypsy Cafe. Um, that's what we call it. It's in Steel Water. It's not actually a place up there, but there it's during calf fry season. So, last week of April, first week of May, but that Sunday, it's a whole organization. and the Red Dirt Relief Fund is there and it's all these artists that get together and play it. And then my second one that is a must for me personally is Grady's um 66 Pub in Yukon, Oklahoma. It's uh Grady Cross is the owner, which he's, you know, cross Cananadian ragweed. Um but they're amazing. They gave me my very first shot at performing live. That's where, you know, I played my first uh full band show and then that was our first soldout show that we ever played. So, >> my entire band and I like we got Grady's >> logo tatted on us. >> Oh, yeah. [laughter] >> Yeah. We followed footsteps on that. >> But they also host um it's called Sounds Okay Music every third Thursday of the month. and it's just a networking situation and open mic um kind of deal. So, it's they're huge in supporting the independents and you know the upcoming artists. That's incredible. And that's, you know, TJ was saying it before about how we sort of how we're in the community together and we try and give everybody a bit of a push and a shove and try and give everybody a platform for for the unsung heroes, if you like, of the of the new up and cominging up and coming musicians world. Um, and you know, it's something that we really want to go and visit and maybe we'll do something different this year or next year, sorry. uh where we'll just jump in a truck and rent something and I'll be driving cuz TJ's scared to death about driving in America. So, I'm more than happy. >> Roads are massive. It's ridiculous. >> But we might um Yeah, we'll have to get in contact with you and just say, "Look, we think we might do that. How can we fit it into like a road trip, road tour? I don't know, something like that. If TJ can get away from from his normal life uh for for a bit or he wants to spend more time with me, Ada, so who knows? >> Who knows? I did it. We >> Yeah, that was enough. >> Anyway, right. So, I said to you earlier we're going to play a game. >> Okay. >> Are you up for a bit of a Christmas game, Ada? >> Let's do it. >> Let's do it. >> Let's do it. TJ, [music] hit the music. >> Yes. This is the last game of the year. The Christmas [music] game. True or false on the Rugger Revival. Will TJ ever win? So, Adera, [music] this game is Christmas. True or false? 10 real facts. 10 real facts this time. >> Okay. >> Um and I'm sure you've seen on the other on the other post that we've done that TJ never really wins. Uh he says it's fixed. I personally think he doesn't know what he's talking about. So I'm going to go true or false. Ask you a question. Then I'll say true. True or false? TJ, true or false? And then at the end we'll give the scores. Uh and TJ probably won't win. So question number one, the first commercially produced Christmas card was commissioned by Sir Henry Cole in England in 1843. Is that true or is it false? Saddera. >> True. >> TJ false. Interesting. >> Question number two. Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer was created in 1939 for a department store giveaway by Mont Montgomery Ward. Adera, is it true or false? >> None of false. >> TJ, I'm just going to go opposite and say true. I've got a 50/50 chance of winning that way. >> Okay, I can do math. >> That's what you think. That's what you think anyway. Uh, okay. NORAD's Santa tracking tradition began after a wrong number in a 1955 Sears advert led kids to call a military operations line. Is that true or is it false? >> True. >> TJ, >> I'll go true. We like watching the Santa tracker. That's our tradition with the kids. >> I've never got any kids. [laughter] Um, Xmas is older than texting. The X comes from the Greek letter chi. That's boring. I'm not going to answer. Uh, question number five. Tinsel used to be made from real silver which could tarnish and go dull. Is that true or false? Saddera. >> True. >> TJ, I'd say true. Yeah, my tin is real silver and gold. You know, we're obviously rich. So [laughter] Oh. Oh, look at little rich boy over here. >> Someone's doing well. >> Next question. Christmas crackers were invented in London in the 1840s by a confectioner called Tom Smith. Is it true or is it false? >> False. >> TJ, I'm going to go true. >> Next question. Coca-Cola invented Santa's red suit. Is that true or false? Cheer. >> TJ, >> I forgot to listen to you to be honest [laughter] with you. I drifted off. Uh, false. I'm going to say doesn't matter. You're going to lose anyway. Uh, [laughter] mistletoe berries are safe to eat if you only have a couple. Is that true or false? Adera, >> I'm going to go false. >> TJ, [snorts] true. Yeah. Last two questions. Boxing Day is linked to to Christmas boxes, not to the sport of boxing. Is that true or false? Adira >> false. >> TJ. Yeah, that sounds like pony. False. >> And then the very last question. In the UK, oh, this is [clears throat] not going to go well for you, Dera. Uh, in the UK, the Met Office can declare a white Christmas if even a single snowflake is observed falling on the 25th of December at an official station. Is that true or is it false? Adira, >> I'll go with true. >> TJ actually know. >> Okay, [laughter] good. True. Let's run for the answers. So, true or false? The first commercially produced Christmas card was commissioned by Sir Henry Cole in England in 1843. It's true. Horsey designed it in 1843 for Henry Cole. Terry, you're correct. Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer was created in 1939 for a department store giveaway by Montgomery Ward. That is true. Created by copywriter Robert El May in 1939. NORAD's uh Santa tracking tradition began after Wrong number in 1955. Sears advert led kids to call a military operations line. That is true. The 1955 misprint is the original origin of the story. Uh Xmas is we're not going to answer that question. Uh tinsel used to be made from real silver which would tarnish and go dull which is true. Early tinsel is widely documented as silverbased. Um Christmas crackers were invented in London in 1840s by a confectioner called Tom Smith. Uh the answer to that is true. It's commonly dated to 1847 with a tradition growing through the Victorian era. Uh Coca-Cola invented Santa's red suit. Coca-Cola uh it's false. Coca-Cola popularized a modern Santa image, but red suited Santa existed earlier. Mistletoe berries are safe to eat if you only have a couple. That is false. Mistletoe ingestion can cause poisoning. It's not considered safe to eat. TJ, stop eating it. Uh, Boxing Day is linked to Christmas boxes, not the sport of boxing. That is true. The exact origin is debated, but is linked to boxes uh giving not fist fights. Uh, and in the UK, the Met Office can declare a white Christmas even if a single snowflake is observed falling on the 25th of December at an official station. The answer is true. It's about observed snow on 25th of December. Not necessarily snow lying everywhere. So, Adera, you are absolutely the winner of the rugby revival true or false Christmas version. Will TJ ever win? You have won the very last game of the year. Congratulations to you. >> Oh, thank you. >> Our merch. Yeah, there you go. >> I guess I'm not a true Grinch after all. >> Merry Christmas, you filthy animal >> and a happy new year. Oh, I fell. You You went. Uh, Adera, thank you so much for playing along uh with me. Uh, now I've got just a few random questions. Uh, and I know we covered part of one earlier. Um, but I I like most growing up, I um I grew up listening to the likes of Dolly Parton, Kitty Wells, Paty Klein, Lorettin, Tammy Wet, and Reeba McIntyre to name a few. Uh, a few of the absolute legends. Um, and uh, for years I've been watching the progression of new female artists uh, in the country music scene and and other scenes to be honest. Um, and I just wanted to see if you've had any particular struggles. What is your opinion of of the sort of way female artists are are doing within the industry at the moment? And have you seen any barriers or struggles? Have you been through anything? Yeah, you know, I I think like I said earlier, everything comes and goes in waves, and I think women are about to take over again in the industry, whether it's rock, country, pop. You're already seeing it with like Sabrina Carpenter. You're starting to see it with Ella Langley and Caitlyn Buts, which is amazing. You're seeing it on the rock side with, you know, Lizzy Hill, Poppy, Amy Lee, Spirit Box. like you're seeing all these females just gravitating towards each other and believing in the music and that's what's setting them apart um from the males I believe right now and so I think we're starting to see that wave come back through the industry and the music scene for females to you know get back on top again and who knows how long it'll last but I do think we're about to see a change in the industry um during this decade honestly and you know for me as as a female uh leader or artist or whatever you want to call me, there there are some difficulties throughout, you know, whether you're working with a Vinnie or a sound guy or, you know, a producer. Just especially since I'm, you know, I'm 5 foot flat. I'm not very tall. I'm a female. I'm considered a dumb blonde like maybe Dolly would have said in her song. Um, so you get taken advantage of on your knowledge and your capability of doing things a certain way. So that that has been a little bit of a struggle, but once you know they start figuring me out a little bit and they realize, you know, I have a bachelor's degree in music, like I I don't know everything, but I do know a little bit of how it should go and, you know, I have good ethics and responsibilities and determination and a band that backs me. And so it's >> you see it be difficult at times but then you also have to appreciate when the hard work is taken seriously. >> Yeah absolutely right and firstly I'd agree I think there is a change in in the industry at the moment. I think there is a lot of incredible amazing uh artists up and female artists up and coming uh and some that are already in that in that stream. um keep that passion, keep keep that focus, keep that passion and keep going and keep fighting for it because it's absolutely something that's right. Um and you know, it's a shame that that you know, we have to talk about sometimes like there's barriers in place or there's struggles or you know, you're absolutely right. You're you're more than qualified. You're more than incredibly talented uh to do what you're doing. So, keep that passion uh and keep going because we'd love to maybe it's something we should do actually. we should do an all female um rugby revival podcast with one of our um crew on the rugby revival. That's another that's a story for another time. But um we'd love to be able to do that and let's support uh the female artist through and let's you know let's let's continue that. Um so I'm I'm going to ask another it might be a little bit of a difficult question um that that we talk about and it's something that's very very close to my heart, very dear to me. Uh, and over the last few podcasts and and when we were over in Texas, I talked a lot and we talked a lot about mental health um, and how people might be able to look after themselves and if they need anything and and signpost in the right direction. And we know after after spending time with the artists over there at Stocktober and and other areas, you know, we know how much that the music industry can can take its toll on some people and some people's mental health and and how they are. Would you mind sharing with us how you look after yourself, how you how you, you know, keep keep your right your right headsp space, how you support yourself, how you keep strong going forward, >> you know, you you have to keep your faith and go fullheartedly in what you believe in and know that for me like I have a God that created me before he even knew what I was going to be and he already had a plan for me. And so going back to my views and being able to breathe and know that I was created for a reason and not get so tied up in how serious this industry can be sometimes and how serious life can be sometimes. You just have to take a step back, breathe, and pray and remember why you're here. >> That's that's perfect advice. Thank you so much and and thank you for sharing that with us. I know that sometimes it's a bit of a tough subject for for a lot of people. Some people don't like talking about it, but we try and, you know, face it. We tried to front it uh and say, "Look, you know, you can talk about it." And and absolutely, we've said it in the previous podcast and and I know that a lot of the artists have agreed with us that if anybody is listening to this, especially at this time of the year and especially, you know, if people have gone through tough times, reach out to us. Come and speak to us. Come and shout and scream at the top of the hill, at the top of the mountain. Come and talk to us. I'm sure Dar, you know, you you' be there to support them as well. If you everybody anybody ever need anything, please just scream and shout and and come and speak to us. Uh cuz we're there and we're we're passionate about it. So, um anyway, thank you for that. So, uh a couple of last questions for me. Um if if you don't mind, uh the Rugger the Ruger Revival started as a community. I know we we talked about that before. uh and trying to give people a bit of a platform, especially in the UK, to really show showcase people like yourselves, artists likeelves that maybe people in the UK wouldn't know or or wouldn't particularly go to in the music saying that you've already reached Spain, so so you're doing something right. Um so, uh but is there any upand cominging artists or bands or musicians that you think they just need a little bit of a shout out? They need a shout out on here. Just whatever you can do to support. And if not, don't worry. But if you have got anybody, please do tell us. >> Yeah, I mean there there's so many there's so many you meet along the way. You've got, you know, if you're we're talking about female side, you have Libby Lane, we have Carly Nash, Shelby Stone, Presley Hail. I mean, there's so many females out there that are trying to do this. And it it almost like you're taking two steps back just because you're not a male sometimes in this industry. It's definitely male-dominated at this moment, especially as independents. But definitely those ladies, they're amazing. They're talented. They're down to earth. Um, and then on the flip side, you know, you got the Smok and Oaks, you got American Slang, Noah Bowman, Trenton Fletcher, you've got like Ganon Freeman and the CC Rev. They're starting to blow up a little bit. And those are the most deserving guys who have done this for over 10 years and have put nothing but blood, sweat, and tears into this industry. and finally they're seeing some of the success that they've deserved. So, yeah, I mean, you just >> go find some of your favorite artists um that aren't massive but aren't small either. Go to their socials, go to who follows them, and if you see an artist, go put them on their page because I know one single follower could change that artist decision on whether to keep going or not. >> Absolutely right. Absolutely right. And that's, you know, let's do a shout out for all the female artists then. Let's do a shout out for all them that need a bit of a shout out sometimes. And uh I'm I'm not going to repeat what you just said because it's absolutely right. Go and follow them. Go and check them out. Go and check their stuff. Uh cuz it's is absolutely the right thing to do and it gives them some support. Um yeah, and all the, you know, all the up and cominging musicians and artists. So, thank you. Um and then one last one from me. Uh bit of a weird one. I've asked some artists before um about it. I want to know why you play to people, why you've got I've listened to your music. You know, we we've done research as well and listened to you uh after meeting you. It's October and you know, you you're such a unique sound. It's incredible. It's powerful. Why do you play to people? What What does that m What does that make you feel afterwards? >> It makes me feel appreciative because when you have one person, even if it's just one, come up to you and say, "This song did something for me. this song made me want to keep going or I really connected with this. If they buy one piece of merch or if they smile at me and they want a picture, like everything that a fan or a potential fan in the audience could help me see the bigger picture beyond what I'm doing at that moment, it makes it all worth it. If I can connect and tell my story in one person like they they also feel that same way. That's that's what it's about to me. It's just giving back. >> Perfect. That's amazing. What a what an incredible answer. >> Ada, thank you very much for spending some time with me. Thanks for answering my questions. TJ, over to you. >> Over to me. Well, there you go. Um, yeah, women are absolutely killing it in the industry. Uh I was talking to Ronnie and the rest of our crew. Uh cuz we were we meant to do a live event on Monday. Uh that's been put back. Uh so anyone listening, we're going to try and do it between Christmas and New Year because like everyone else, we have day jobs and it just becomes a bit messy sometimes. Um but yeah, the reason I was saying that is because uh we were talking about favorite artists or most played tracks or albums throughout the year and 90% of it was female artists. Uh, I know Brad was shouting out, uh, Bren Brennan Lee, I think he was shouting out. Um, we're obviously obsessed over here with Jesse Williams and Presley Hail and Kerry Lick and, you know, yourself and all of these amazing um, artists and yeah, women are absolutely dominating uh, it at the minute and it'd be interesting to see how that kind of translates next year. Um, you mentioned uh, being short a number of times as well. Um, you did make me feel massive when I stood next to you, which is, uh, very rare for me. I'm normally quite short myself. Uh, but it's funny because we spent a lot of time in the car with Tobo and uh, mainly Tobo, wasn't it? Uh, for hours on end. You know, that's probably the longest I've ever spent in a car was driving around Texas. It was ridiculous. You know, four or five hours some days. Um, so it gave us a lot of time to talk and play stupid games. And one of the stupid games really was uh who who could beat me up really and we went through the entire Stocktober list and we got to you and you could beat me up according to Ronnie and Tbo. Um do you remember the the the game show cards that used to be like Trump strength five, >> speed 10, you know, and you you do all the scores. So, we were doing the scores as well. And yeah, >> there wasn't many people I could beat up, but you you came out on top on that one. >> I feel like I can handle my own as well. Like, I'm tiny, but I'm mighty. Like, I might be 5 foot, but in my head I'm 67. >> Yeah, you look like you can handle yourself to be fair. And you're in much better shape than me. So, uh yeah, well done. Anyway, I thought I'd let you know that you could beat me up. Um, hopefully you won't, but >> if you wanted to, if I if I stepped out of line, maybe if I've had too many drinks, you could uh yeah, certainly chin me. Uh, but there you go. [laughter] Anyway, on to onto normal conversation. Um, so in terms of the future, uh, you you kind of teased us a little bit somewhat earlier with a new project. Um, do you have any other kind of goals, whether it's next year or the year after? Anything on your bucket list that you want to get done? >> I want to play more festivals. I want to hit um some more different states, different venues that we haven't, you know, we've only broken into Texas, Oklahoma, and Kansas, and barely touched in Kansas. So, I would like to hit up north more and then go east and west as well. >> Awesome. And where where's you been your favorite kind of places to play um so far? >> Oh man, I love the Fox Theater in Hayes, Kansas. That it's always it's a blast up there. It's a long drive, but it it's a lot of fun. And then I would have to also say we played the Houston rodeo last year, and that was >> that was a huge huge accomplishment. >> Oh wow. We want to go to a rodeo. Uh, we probably stick out like a sore thumb with our ginormous like cowboy hats and, you know, ridiculous clothes, but >> I would recommend the Houston rodeo. >> Absolutely. >> Wow. Yeah, we we're going to do it. It's on our our list of things is just getting like bigger and bigger. Um, do you have any like I know we probably didn't describe it particularly well. Probably as good as you described your hometown. Uh, you know, Britain's not great. Um, but do you have any any desire to to come over here to play to to do some music? Oh, I would love to. I want to travel so bad. Like I've never been out of the States. So, definitely traveling. That's that's another huge like goal of mine is to be able to go somewhere else and play. >> Wow. It's um Yeah, I a lot of people don't have passports in America and I I understand why now because it's so big and you probably have everything now. You have mountains, lakes, beaches, you know, you have abs. We've got to travel, you know, just to get nice weather. So we we tend to go to Spain or, you know, Turkey or or those sort of places. So yeah, I understand why why Americans uh don't go anywhere else. I probably wouldn't myself to be fair. Um there you go. I've got one final question and it's a really important one. Um do you have any New Year's resolutions? >> New Year's resolutions? >> Interesting. I would have to say honestly is to work harder than I did this year and really focus on my goals of what I'm wanting to accomplish and really set forward and putting that time and energy into achieving those. >> That's a good one. That's a good one. Ronnie, what's yours? >> Yeah, >> work harder. [laughter] Definitely work on Definitely work harder. Um, no. I I think um >> don't know. Come back to me. Let's let me come I'll come back. I haven't worked it out. Yeah, I think we should do a message episode. >> Yeah, maybe we need to do their >> final final sort >> A lot of people like I want to lose weight and all that stuff. I was like I might take up smoking, you know. I'm just going to do opposites. Um [laughter] >> I'm going to get bigger. >> That be the best year ever. >> Oh, it's going to be epic. Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to like >> I didn't drink enough last year, so I'm going to drink double what I was drinking last year. >> I'm going to double down on my drinking and smoking. Yeah, it's going to be a fabulous uh 2026. Um there you go. Yeah, we we'll do a I think we'll do a separate episode on that maybe. >> Yeah. >> Anyway, um right, I've waffled on so much and talked so much crap, but um so I'll I'll hand over to you Ronnie to to do some final the final message. Adair K. Uh you have been incredible. Thank you so much for joining us uh tonight on our final uh episode of this year. Um I just wanted to say a couple of things. Couple of things that I picked up on uh that we were talking about earlier. Tiny but mighty. You are definitely tiny but mighty. Uh you might be 5 foot, but you're so passionate, so incredible, and an absolute force to be reckoned with. And if people haven't heard you in the UK, if they haven't heard you in America, if they haven't heard you anywhere else, your songs, they need to go and check you out because you're an incredible talented person. Uh and um and I wish you all the very very best for the new year and hopefully we'll see you next year face to face and maybe on here again. Who knows? We might do a an all female episode. Um but you've been an absolute pleasure to speak to this evening and thank you so much uh for joining us. >> Yes, thank you guys so much for having me. I I feel honored that I was the last episode for this year for you. >> Yes. Queen of the last episode. There we go. Um now Adera, we could we could I I've got a final message. It's a bit of a speech. So I don't know if you've got time. Five minutes or so just to stay with us. I don't know if you've got time or if you need to go. Um >> no, you speed it. Speed it up. [laughter] >> No, go. Honestly, it's going to be late. So, >> no, that's fine. Honestly, um I tell you what, we'll do this. We'll end this one. We'll raise a toast. Eda, if you've got a glass, a drink, or something near you, even a pen, raise a toast [laughter] to the grit, the grind, and to the revival. Cheers to everyone for listening and thank you for joining us, Adiraa. Absolute pleasure speaking to you. He ch. [laughter]

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14 July 2026· 22:27

Ben Morrison

The Brothers Comatose: Ben Morrison on 18 Years of Music, Family & Touring

Ben Morrison of The Brothers Comatose joins the Rugged Revival Podcast for an honest conversation about nearly two decades ...

9 July 2026· 51:23

Pat Reedy

Pat Reedy on Busking, Nashville & Building a Country Music Career

Pat Reedy joins Camden to discuss leaving construction behind for country music, busking in New Orleans, life in Nashville, ...

7 July 2026· 22:43

Mike Tod

Keeping Traditional Folk Music Alive in Nashville | Mike Tod Podcast

Mike Tod joins Camden to discuss traditional folk music, Canadian roots, life in Nashville, forgotten songs, unusual instruments and why preserving musical history still matters today.Originally from Canada and now based in Nashville, Mike explores the stories behind traditional songs, the connections between folk music around the world and how old music continues to influence modern artists. We also discuss his unique "Crankenstein" instrument, musical curiosity, collecting songs from the past and the importance of keeping traditions alive for future generations.Chapters00:00 Introduction00:00:30 Growing Up in Canada00:02:20 Discovering Music & The Crankenstein00:04:10 The Story Behind The Crankenstein00:05:20 Drones, Folk Traditions & Ancient Music00:08:10 Learning Guitar & Performing Original Songs00:09:40 Accessing Traditional Music in the Digital Age00:11:20 Researching Music History00:12:10 Playing The Crankenstein Live00:14:00 Creating Atmospheric Sounds & Live Performance00:16:00 Traditional Songs & Musical Origins00:17:50 The Artists Influencing Mike Today00:19:20 Studying Philosophy & Creative Thinking00:22:00 Horror, Heavy Music & Folk Culture00:24:00 Scottish Heritage & Family History00:27:10 Final ThoughtsSubscribe to The Rugged Revival. Share it with your friends. Support independent music!Listen to the full podcast on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6wnHcgA73o1aiiKaz882vH?si=30aabdaa220a4628Follow The Rugged Revival:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theruggedrevival/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theruggedrevivalFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100094507520679Website: www.theruggedrevival.comEmail: ruggedrevival@hotmail.com

23 June 2026· 27:13