Brandon Legion | Horror Podcaster & Synth Metal Musician | Rugged Revival

When you lose your love, [music] [music] hearts get broke, tables [music] turn you. This is the Rugged Revival podcast, your [music] home of the UK's country America and roots music community. And this is where all the cowboys [music] and cowg girls come. Isn't that right, Ronnie? >> It is. Yes. Yeah. There you go. So, uh, I put introduce Ronnie on my notes. I probably given the game away, you know, behind the scenes, but you weren't here last week, mate, were you? What? Where were you? I missed you. [music] >> I missed Marcus Trummer. I was very disappointed with that. Um, I got stuck at work. Uh, you wouldn't know about that, TJ. So, [laughter] I got stuck at work and uh I couldn't make it back. So, um, anyway, sorry. >> That was a boring uh reveal. I thought you were going to say something interesting. Normally we make it up and say you've gone for an anal bleach or something, but um yeah, you would got stuck at work. >> That would have been way better. >> It would have been. >> Yeah, it would have been way better. All right, let's do that again. [laughter] >> No, we're going to power through. Anyway, so we are joined today by a very special guest. Some call her the Appalachian goddess. Some people say she's what you get if you marry Susan Tadeshi and Janice Joplin and they had a baby. >> Interesting. It's Maggie Noel, frontwoman of Kentucky bass band Magnolia Boulevard. I probably pronounced that really badly. [laughter] >> Yeah, >> you did great. >> Oh, thank you. I I was worried about that, but how are you, Maggie? You okay? >> I'm doing great. Thanks for having me, fellas. >> Fantastic. Well, welcome to the show. We've been keen to have you on, and uh it's going to be a good laugh. It's going to be a bit crazy and a bit hectic, but uh yeah, I think you'll enjoy it. Anyway, um before I hand over to to Ronnie, anyway, so we're going to do something kind of new this week. Um we're going to do a new revival radio feature, something called we we call soundtrack to your life. And basically, in a nutshell, I'm going to explain this really bad, but it's going to be a few songs. So, as we talk, you know, through your your early life, your career, etc. I think we're going to create like a soundtrack of music that kind of captures your essence at each stage of where you are. I know it sounds very posh, doesn't it? Um, and then I think we'll clip it and maybe share it with the socials. Um, so yeah, we're going to try that. Let's see how it goes. But, um, anyway, I'm going to hand over to the professional that is old Ronald. And, um, >> not me. >> That was the first time I've heard that. So, um, thank you for explaining what we're going to do tonight cuz I had no idea. Um, Maggie, what an absolute pleasure it is to have you on, um, this evening. Um, but there's a little bit I I was a bit disappointed actually because normally TJ lays into me and he's really nasty to me if I haven't been able to make a podcast before. Uh, and normally he does me a silly video or something like that. So, I'm really disappointed. However, I've got something new this episode, Maggie, that you're going to help me with if that's okay. Um, so >> we interviewed Spencer Hatchard, uh, Hatcher, sorry, couple of, uh, podcasts ago, uh, and TJ got upset because I described him as a man that walks around, picks up dog [ __ ] off the street when he doesn't even have a dog. Uh, and that's how I described TJ. However, we're going to do a little game now. Uh, it's a new piece of the show, and it's called TJ with his face like TJ, over to you. TJ with a space like [music] TJ with a space. TJ [music] >> I don't know why he's still playing. [music] >> It's pretty long. Cut it. Cut it. Cut it. Um anyway, yes, this game is called TJ with his face like now Maggie. Uh this I'm going to give you two examples. So, um, this is where I ask the artist to give their intro to describe TJ's face. For example, TJ with his face like an explosion in a [ __ ] factory. Or another example, TJ with his face like a moldy parnip. So, Maggie, [laughter] Maggie, could you tell me TJ with his face like, >> "Oh, buddy, we're get we're already calling on some insults already, eh?" >> uh >> Oh, yeah. >> TJ with his face like, "Oh, buddy, come on. You set me up." [laughter] >> See, Ron, it's natural for Ronnie to be Yeah. Yeah. Don't let them bey little eyes deceive you. He's nasty in the background. >> Face like quite possibly his wife. >> She wears the pants >> or boyfriend. I don't know. >> Oh, it's all being revealed now. Okay. >> Everything's being revealed now. >> I mean, is that what we're looking for here? Or are we talking about physical >> or just just an insult? TJ with his face like a fart in a brown paper bag. >> [laughter] >> or something like that. >> TJ with his face like, "Oh, well, see, I mean, how could I how could I go from a fart with a fart and a paper bag? Are you kidding me? [laughter] DJ with his face like >> I don't like this new feature. >> This my kid. She just got home from school, guys. [laughter] I just sent mine to Sorry. Sorry about that. >> Hello. >> She can tell us what my face looks like. [laughter] >> CJ with his face like >> We got to help you. What do What do you think his face looks like? That one. >> He looks like a dirty dishwasher. [laughter] >> A dirty dishwasher. >> I love it. We're going to stick with that. TJ, play the horn. >> Thank you so much. Thank you so much. >> Well, I can't find a horn, so you'll have to find. >> So, we got Anyway, that was a great example. Anyway, so that's that was TJ with his face like uh and Maggie, thank you very much for uh helping with that. >> Thanks. >> So, I'm going to go way back [laughter] to the serious bits now. So, we're serious. Um, it's an absolute pleasure to have you on uh on the show tonight and I've heard so much about you. TJ has been talking about you constantly and I've been listening to your music constantly and you're incredible. You've got an amazing talent. Uh, absolutely um just blown away honestly by by your talent. Uh, but I want to go back to uh right back when to 2020 when you were a mere 2 years old. Uh, and I want to talk about your childhood. Could you share with us some childhood experiences, where you grew up, what you done, uh some share some childhood stories with us so it gets um so we can all get to know you. >> I live here in Lexington, Kentucky. Um originally from Clintwood, Virginia, part of the Appalachins. Um grew up with [clears throat] music with like I said, very very prominent part of my life, my childhood. Um mostly in bluegrass, but um I don't know. I would say like high school, right before high school, I definitely started digging into like the old soul singers, you know, Elotha Franklin and Nita Simone, um, Eda James. Um, and then Barney Ray has always been my like top number one hero. Um, so I definitely felt moved like slightly like I knew that I should be do doing something else other than bluegrass music. Um, it just kind of clicked for me. But, uh, it I never really started playing professionally until like my early 20s. um and met some really beautiful musicians uh in Asheville, North Carolina when I lived there and those people kind of led me to Lexington and now I'm here. >> That's incredible. It's and it's it's so amazing to hear that some of your [sighs and gasps] I say idols, but your um the sort of people that you listen to uh growing up, you can really hear that in your music and it you bring such a unique sound to it. Uh and and I was like I said to you, it's just incredible to hear your talent um and how such a raw voice um and carry that. So it's amazing. So thank you for sharing that with us. Um I've got actually it's part of TJ's new bit. So, it's around the the soundtrack to your life. Uh, and what I'm going to ask you is, if you could choose one song that defines your childhood, what would it be? >> Oh my gosh, what a question. >> Um, there's a song called uh Mountain or This Mountain by Leon Helm. I love that guy. >> I think that would most definitely describe um my childhood. The the chorus I I was born on this mountain. This mountain's my home. Um and then part of the lyrics it talks about how you know before strip mining became a thing. And you know, by the time [clears throat] I was in high school, the all the mining around my hometown, we're my hometown is basically just a tiny little old coal town. There's there's not much to it now because >> yeah, >> they kind of just took it all out. [laughter] So, I think that's a pretty good description of how I feel about it. >> Incredible choice. Amazing. Um, I'm not going to delve any more into your I know we talked about your early 20s. I'm not going to delve any more into that cuz I'm going to leave that for TJ. Um, and I know that TJ's got >> so many questions packed into his section. So, Maggie, it's lovely to have you. Uh, and I'll talk to you more in a bit. >> TJ, >> thank you. >> There you go. See, we can be serious and professional. Um, at sometimes um, >> you can because I don't think I can. >> I know. Well, I lied. That's one of my lies, my frequent lies. Um but no what we like to do when anyone comes on I think it we just do it justice by doing trying to do our research anyway with what's out there on the internet and hopefully we get most of it right and um it's interesting I was stalking your Instagram uh and going through there just to kind of get an idea of what kind of a person you are and yeah so before we go into things properly you caused some controversy online recently or rather a part of you did and I think rather than me kind of going on to explain let's let's get the message up and uh have a look for ourselves. [music] [music] [laughter] >> I'm not sure why the uh smooth jazz, but uh I thought it added to the um beyond. >> So uh so you upset some some of your fans with with you know >> I think that's wrong. >> Yeah. With with your your boobies. So, I just want to say that the rugged revival um [laughter] we stand with you in solidarity, sister. And Ronnie has also caused some controversy of his own. I mean, he does it quite frequently, but he posted a a video uh recently to Instagram. And I tell you what, you should have seen the negative comments from that. So, >> yeah. Well, let's show a little bit of uh Ronny's boob video that uh caused some controversy. >> [music] >> So, um, yeah, we got a lot of negative comments and complaints about that one. Uh, but if you want to connect with Ronnie, it's Stud Muffing Supreme, isn't it? Your, uh, your >> I actually lost them glasses. [laughter] I lost them glasses, so I had to cut my beard down. But I did find that funny and thank you for sharing that online on your Insta because uh yeah, it made me laugh when I when I saw that. But uh but yeah, let's um let's talk about your situation now, Maggie. Um obviously you're a a mother of young children as we we learned uh you know from dirty dishwasher. >> Uh just one um lucky you. >> So tell us tell us kind of the state of things now at home and and kind of your your your life. Is it chaotic? Is it uh you know what what's going on? >> Man, it is chaotic. That is the word. Um but I love it and I wouldn't have it any other way. Um I [clears throat] have a really great support system. You know, I I try to take my kid out as much as as possible. Um, in 2019 we got the Blues uh Blues Traveler Tour and my daughter was 7 months old and she went on the whole tour with us. And you know, it's kind of it's kind of been um just a really prominent thing for me to prove to not only myself but my daughter that like hey like we can do big things. We can be moms if we choose to be moms. Um, we we can also choose not to be moms. We can we can do whatever we want. But I think the whole judgment side of things, it's like immediately when a woman is uh, you know, in a professional music setting, like they find out, oh, you're a mom. Well, that must mean you you live your kid kind of thing. And um, I just I want to I want to prove so many people wrong in that area. It's very important to me. But um chaotic is the word and it it definitely gets really tough. But um like I said or I was going to say uh I have a really great great support system. Um my mother, she helps me out tremendously and I've got a lot of really great friends as well. So it's uh it's it's fun and it can be a little tricky sometimes, but I I love it. I love my job and I feel like as the many years that I've been doing this and the almost 10 years that Magnolia Boulevard has been a band, I'm starting to finally see a little bit of things coming back like, oh, you know, maybe I maybe I can make this a a real career, you know? >> Yeah, that's really cool to kind of learn that side of things. It's uh you know, we we speak to a lot of people on the podcast from all backgrounds and I say some people have no children, no wife, you know, and it's it's kind of their thing. they'll go out on the road and you know that that's that's how they choose to live. But like you say, it doesn't mean that you can't have kids and a family and you know must be very tough on a on a musician. Like you say, you're out in the road um you can be out on the road constantly, especially in the States. It's uh a little bit different to touring the UK. We're a bit smaller. So >> So yeah, that's a that's a really cool message to send out. I was I was going to say um we we spoke about women power before with Adara Kay uh when we had her on the podcast uh and we talked about the fact that it was a very male [clears throat] dominated industry and what was it like you know from her experiences and everything else and you know what I love the fact you just say you said uh around being a role model saying you know you're teaching your your wonderful daughter that you can be mom you can do all the normal stuff uh and and still have an incredible music career uh and still be part of the industry that is very male-dominated and sing that women with power. So amazing. Thank you. It was great. >> Yeah. Thank you. I uh I was actually just looking at Instagram earlier today and someone I reposted it. I don't know who posted it, but they were look just like they had a bunch of different festival uh lineup posters for the year 2026. It was like a side by side of like how many women is on, you know, on the actual lineup. And it's it's terrible number one, but I think it's really kind of shocking that still like here we are in 2026 and like women still are not taken very seriously and and and in the you know it being such a male driven industry I think I think women belong everywhere um everywhere. Yeah, I and totally agree. And that's funny enough, we said we're going to do a different we're going to do a a separate section uh separate podcast and we're going to get some of the the the female artists that we've had on the podcast and we're going to share that love and we're going to do uh another podcast session. But I'll be in touch with you another time. So, sorry TJ, go on. Carry on. >> No, that's new to me. But, uh [laughter] it sounds amazing. >> You were there. You were there. What are you talking about? >> Was I drunk? I was probably drunk. Probably. [laughter] Yeah. I come out of all these ideas when I try. No, that's really cool. Well, like you say, I mean, we we said it um numerous times. We've had lots of female artists on the show. In fact, when we're going through our end of year 2025, you know, most listened to and you know, it was dominated by female artists like Presley Hail and people like that. And it's just it's very cool to see. But like you say, I I think there's you know, I I look at the lineups at these festivals and it sometimes feels very sy as well. So, it's not just, you know, there's a lack of female representation, but I think there's a a kind of a sameness that perhaps there there's an inner circle of artists that they're familiar with or friendly with and those guys get to to get on the bill and rather than just go and branch out and find somebody new because there so many cool new acts out there. Um, so I don't know. Is that something you find within the scene? >> Oh, totally. I mean, it it it all can be a bit clicky, I will say. Um, but I I will, you know, on a positive note when it comes to Kuckians especially, there's something about Kentucky people and the music that's coming out of Kentucky. I just feel like it's really authentic. Um, and people crave that authenticity at this point in in the state of the world, you know. Um, [clears throat] and there it goes. There's my brain. This is what happens. >> No, it's all good. I think, you know, we when we started the podcast, we we started in Kentucky uh with some friends like Josh Mitchum and it it was been the most welcoming community and I I don't think we would have got as far without the kind of support of the people there and the artists. So, I I think you've got a a fantastic place and we're hoping to come out there at some point to, you know, see some live music and and to meet some of our online friends. That would be pretty cool. Uh so maybe >> yeah, you totally >> we'll hunt you down. >> But um I suppose going back to how we found uh Magnolia Boulevard and your music. Um you know, I I was I've probably done this for the last few podcasts with the guests I've had on, but I was creating at the end of the year a modern soul playlist because I love country and I love Americana. We have a lot of blues and I just wanted a bit of a mix of soul stuff and I love the fact that, you know, I put the stuff in I know. And the AI on Spotify can be sometimes pretty good, sometimes pretty [ __ ] Um, particularly when it adds AI music. So, that annoys me, but that's a whole >> Oh my god, it annoys me so much. I >> Yeah, and you can spot it immediately, can't you? Like, why is it even put it on on here? Well, I I'll you say immediately, but I actually shared a song this morning with my band and immediately Ryan, who's an original member of the band, he's like, "Did you even did you even do your research on this, Maggie? Did you Google this guy?" And I did. And I totally fell for it. I totally fell for it. It's just another AI Spotify band. And I was like, "Wow." But the title of the song was I'm Letting Go of the [ __ ] So, I thought that was [laughter] >> well, I say it immediately. I can normally tell by the artwork because they create AI artwork and it's that that to me is kind of a giveaway if it's not a real person or band on the thing. It it kind of, you know, anyway, but um yeah, you're definitely forgiven for being fooled by some of these songs. Um but anyway, you know, I I think it can bring together a lot of like cool artists and lately it's been introducing me to some new people I haven't heard before. like Marcus Drummer was on last week. Canadian young guy, amazing kind of modern soul singer. Uh, and your music came up as well and and Spellbound was added to to that kind of list with Pug Johnson and other people that we we love and have found now. So, there's certain songs that, you know, me and Ronnie just kind of stop and go, what what is this? This is just incredible. It's amazing. I even text Lance Rogers cuz I go down a rabbit hole and I find out, well, what is this band or this artist? Where they from? And when it said Kentucky, it was like, I bet Lance knows who who you guys are. And he said, yeah. He said, you're all crazy and to give you a wide birth, but he [laughter] said you, I'm only joking. He said, yeah, absolutely fantastic people and even better musicians. So, yeah, it was really cool to find you in that way and to have you on the playlist. Um, but would you mind if we play a little bit of Spellbound just so people can kind of get a an idea of you? >> Not Not at all. >> Thank you. All right, let's play this [music] >> in darkness, [music] baby. And I don't know, I [music] don't know how I don't know how he came about. Turn my life around. [music] Imagine I still [music] Yeah, it just fit nicely with all of the other tracks that I had on there. I even wrote I know you you've talked about kind of the inspirations with Arifa and a lot of the old soul soul stars but I even wrote sea down because I thought you've got a touch of sea uh to you as well and I think se is an incredible uh singer um for the last you know 15 20 years so so yeah fantastic but going back to your band Maggie um tell us who's in it for a start because I feel like sometimes we leave the band out a little bit and when we have one person on and you know tell us how it started please >> it's Okay. They all feel like that. They all feel left out [laughter] until they leave me out and you know we're in the van and I love making that joke like I'm just the lead singer. It's it's fine. [laughter] Um so [clears throat] Ryan Allen um that's my best friend in the whole wide world. Uh we started this band almost so this year makes nine years. Um, and which is seems like a huge accomplishment, you know, to to have someone put up with my [ __ ] for that long. Anyways, um, but, uh, he plays keys. He's also a little bit of a wizard when it comes to like booking and tour managing and he drives the van a lot and he's just kind of like the dad, the I call him papa mostly, but he's like the dad in the band. Um then we've got um Austin Lewis. He's a West Virginia boy. Um he's all of 26 years old and he rips it. He loves his instrument and you can tell and he's just very tasteful. He's not one of those guitar players that likes to just like solo ever all over everybody. And you know, we've definitely had some of those in the past uh lineup arrangement of this band, but um yeah, so Austin Lewis on guitar, um Brandon [clears throat] Johnson on the drums, uh that's a little bit of a funny story because we were actually looking for a guitar player and it had been like it like Austin had came up so we're like sorry that position's already been filled but now we're kind of looking for a drummer if you know of anyone. So, he's like, "Oh, I play drums, too." Um, and he kills it. He's He's so good. He's I mean, I think when you're a multi-instrumentalist, like something there's some magic in there that happens, you know, like he's just able to do so much. Um, and he's like he's really like deep down he's a he's a real metal kid. So, there's there's something in there that makes it all happen. Um, and then so Brandon on drums and then Rody Pucket on bass. Um, Rody's kind of like a local um, local legend around Lexington. Um, he played with everybody and he's damn good at what he does. He used to play in a band called the Wooks. Um he also played in a band back in the in like late 90s um called Green Jeans which full circle um [clears throat] was a band that our original drummer Todd Copelan he uh is like kind of a jammy band jam band was like you know the fi the fish people they loved that [laughter] but um he um yeah Brody's great He's he's he's really I'm I'm very lucky because all the boys in my band are so good at what they do. They're so easy to get along with. Like, you know, cuz half of the part or half of it being in a band is getting along with one another because we're in the band in we're in the van more so than we are playing music most of the time. And uh so the hang is is just as important. And I'm very lucky that I got a a a good group of dudes and we get [ __ ] done and we have fun doing it. >> That's awesome. And um you touched upon it briefly a minute ago, but what's it like being, you know, the only female in the band and and traveling a lot, you know, you know, we we've had this a few times with some of the artists that have come on and they've given us some interesting kind of insight how they manage it and how >> we like gossip mag gossiped gossip. [laughter] >> So this is funny. We we were actually in the studio yesterday with [clears throat] our friend Nicholas Jamerson and his band. Um so I got two bands full of boys and I'm the only female. And I I think that a lot of times, you know, in those scenarios like the boys are like, "Oh, well this is awkward. We can't be boys." But then they quickly find out that like I'm the worst at all of them. I I have a bit of a dirty mouth, but you know, if you can't hang, you you can't hang. So, >> we don't believe you. You're so polite, Maggie. [laughter] [snorts] >> Thanks. >> Well, that's [laughter] No, it's really cool to know. So, I think talk us through your music journey inspirations up to now. So, you know, we touched upon earlier about the soul side of things and obviously we we listen to your music and it has got that that vibe to it. So, Real Mix, you know, when I listen to it, that Appalachin side of things, the southern rock, you know, I can hear kind of Orman Brothers with the side guitar inspiration. It's very cool. Um, but how how would you go about describing it in your own words, you know, to people that may not have listened to you? >> You know, we I've really struggled with that. Um, it's it's a hard one. It's I think a lot of the times people want to say country just because like my accent kind of pops out every once in a while or maybe it's like the the song lyrics as well sometimes. Um but I I'm very proud to be an Appalachin. Um and I I I love that that kind of shines through. Now, when people say that it's country music, for some reason, that kind of pisses me off. But, you know, it's just it's the Appalachin background and we all we allow >> have a little bit of different I mean, Ryan and I most definitely have the same like musical background. We grew up listening, our parents are the same age, which is funny, you know, how those things work out, but like we we grew up listening to classic rock and le Zeppelin and the band um and stuff like that. Um, and then like all the other different little musical influences, like I said, like growing up listening to Bonnie Ray and Susan Tedeski. I I again, I've always struggled with like what genre I I want to call it, but I'm I'm I'm a mut. I'm I'm I'm an Appalachin mut. That's [laughter] it. And I think that's what our music is. Um, I I had someone describe it last year as Appalachin rocking soul, and I really like that a lot. >> Yeah, that's cool. I think Appalachian soul's been stolen by Hunter Flynn. He's got that on his t-shirt, but uh I like Appalachin Mut or I think that's what you call >> Appalachin Mut. >> Yeah, I think that'd be a cool hat. I'd definitely wear that. So, uh I I want to get a t-shirt made with She got a dirty mail [laughter] on there. Uh that you just said. That's what I want. >> Okay. >> I'm going to get a t-shirt made. >> Okay. [laughter] >> So, I told you I was good at accents. So, >> sort of. We'll get that in a minute. [laughter] >> So, yeah. I think Yeah, we'll do the next soundtrack to your life. Um, >> now there's all kinds of interruptions today, you guys. Sorry. Now I'm hearing a tornado siren outside my house. >> Oh, no. >> Tornado siren. >> Huh? Do you need to check that? >> They just they it'll be fine. >> Are you sure? [laughter] >> Okay. >> Would be going crazy. >> Well, when when your house starts swirling around, we'll just carry on. You know, it's uh we're professional >> like Dorothy just taking [laughter] you guys with me. >> Wow. Your life is chaotic, but uh yeah, good for you. Um where was I up to? Um, so yeah, I think we'll do the next kind of soundtrack to your life uh part of it. So what we tend to to ask and normally it's cliche, you know, we say, "Oh, what's your favorite, you know, album ever and song ever?" But because we are, you know, we we champion independent music for a start. Uh, we try and champion new music. I think that's important, too. There's lots of new artists and they're popping up every week and I think it's, you know, there's a platform that need needs to be shared and music that needs to be shared. So, you know, in terms of what the be what is the best song that you've listened to in perhaps the last five years and what makes it stand out to you? [sighs and gasps] >> Gosh, you guys are really hitting me with some questions today. I love it. I love it. [laughter] It's not your normal I'll just say this and then I'll go back to your question. I do a lot of interviews. There's nothing that pisses me off a little bit worse than somebody asking the same damn question that I just answered in a different interview. Like if you if you took 10 seconds to look up on a Google uh interview somebody, you're going to find the same [ __ ] the same questions. So, thanks. >> Boring. >> Keeping it spicy, boys. I love [laughter] it. >> It gets spicier from here. [laughter] >> Um, okay. within the last five years. Something that resonates with me. Um [ __ ] Hell. Uh [clears throat] is it called uh I'm Still Fine by um the Red Clay Strays. >> Oo, I love the Red Clay Strays. >> Me, too. >> And they're doing well with those boys. I think that would make so much sense if my band and their band went on tour together. Well, let's put it out there. Let's uh let's make sure you can do the opening for the Red Clay Stray. Any particular venue? Red Rocks or you not? >> Oh, Red Rocks for sure. That's a that's a big bucket list venue. >> I had uh I had the Beacon Theater in New York on my on my list. Oh, wow. >> Is that funny? >> Wow. >> That's serious. >> But anyways, but yeah, I got to play the Beacon Theater. So, there's that. That one got knocked down. So, let's go to Red Rocks and Red Clay Strays. >> Let's do it. Well, we'll put it out there for you and we'll try our best, you know, to to get these things done. Um, >> we'll do an advert. Yeah. >> Yeah, [laughter] we'll do an advert to the Red Clay Strays. Yes, absolutely. Um, so yeah, you've been releasing singles and a couple of EPs since 2019. And you, it was your self-titled album in November 2025. Maybe that's why it came up on my feed because it was relatively new and I was I was kind of messing around on Spotify literally around that time and I think it just kind of hit the mark. So, you know, tell us about, you know, the singles that you've put out and that that kind of journey right at the beginning, you know, in terms of, you know, the songs that you wrote, u the recordings you made and how that was recorded and up until now. I know it's kind of a broad question, but there is a journey there and I think it's interesting to kind of learn, you know, how you got there. Yeah. Well, [clears throat] you know, I'll say this for our band. We've had a lot of really good highs and a lot of really, really low lows. Um, I kind of touched base on it, but our original drummer, Todd Copelan, he unfortunately passed away um in 2021. So, that was a really heavy hit. Um, and then we kind of, you know, bobbed and weaved with some different lineup changes and had kind of essentially like lost our footing for a minute, you know. Um, and and I think that I think with all of that, you know, it definitely like shines through the music. Like if you're not playing with the right people, you're not going to get the right sound. And um I'm just I I feel like I finally have like the line the dream team. This is it. This is what we're going to do. We're going to do big things and we're all like really eager and gung-ho about it all, you know. Um, but [clears throat] yeah, like we've we've there's um I don't know that he calls it Shangro Law Studios here anymore, but Dwayne Lundy, he's a very prominent um I guess you could say philanthropist for a lot of um local musicians here. Great engineer, producer. um he very quickly when we started the band wanted to work up some stuff and so those first like bits of singles that we put out we started working with Dwayne um and then we were introduced to Paul Reed Smith um who makes PRS guitars. He really loved our sound and kind of like took us under his wing and helped us find our very first manager and our very first booking agent. Um, and then [gasps] and then he recorded uh an EP with us in his home studio. So, it's it's again, we've had a lot of highs and a lot of lows. And really, it just takes a lot of money to be quite honest with you, to get this [ __ ] done. And we're poor people. We don't have money. >> Yeah. It's so expensive to kind of um well, do it in a way that you want to do it. you know, people can do it on the kind of the cheap. Um, but yeah, to record it in a way that you want it, it it is expensive, but that's interesting to hear about the PRS side and, you know, the guy behind it seems so cool and to to have that in your story um is amazing really. You know, it's uh is he is he local to where you are then? >> No, actually. Um, so another friend in the music scene, his name is Brandon Bolds. He actually works at a local guitar shop here in Lexington. Um, and it's really small, but they have a lot of inventory and um, they're actually I think like one of the largest PRS like sellers in the country and so it was their 50th year anniversary. This [ __ ] cat. I'm sorry I said that. [laughter] >> It's all right. >> I love this. This is brilliant. [laughter] >> I know so much. a tornado ripping through. We got a cat. We got a kid in >> I just don't know what's going on. What's happening? >> I'm just worried that there's going to be a >> And it's all dark. It's raining. There's lightning and thunder. >> What is it like out there? It's like ASMR. I'm like, it's quite nice listening to it. >> It's mood. It's [laughter] wonderful. >> This is gold. I love this. [laughter] >> I'm not chopping any of this out, by the way. This is I love it. >> Yeah. Not. Okay. Anyway, so so anyway, [laughter] back to PRS. [clears throat] It was 50, it was their 50th year anniversary. It's being at Willut Guitar Shop. So they uh our friend Brennan asked if we would be interested in playing uh like the headliner slot or whatever. Um, and they did like a like a couple different guitar distributors were there like Taylor, Martin, all the things. And they did like some little clinics in between um the music. And Paul, they I guess there was a PRS that they were raffling off that was like the big, you know, big chicken dinner, whatever you want to call it. Uh, and I won that guitar. [laughter] I I I don't know if he like just happened to take a locking to me and was like, I'm going to say that this is her name. >> But I'm pretty sure it was just kind of serendipitous. And then we played and he was like, oh my god, I love them. and immediately flew us in to uh like two weeks later they were doing the experience PRS which is like a huge showcase of their guitars. Um I think like some of the members of like the spin doctors or something was there. to remember, but uh it was a huge it was the biggest crowd I've ever played in front of and I had also never flown on an airplane before and he flew us up there specifically just to play the showcase show up there. So, >> wow. >> After that, it was just kind of >> we call him Uncle Paul. He's a great friend to have. He's always got good advice and he puts up with my dirty mouth as well. So, [laughter] Wow, that's that's an incredible story. I love PRS guitars. I can't afford one. Uh I wanted a Silver Sky for ages because I'm a John Mayer geek. But um and plus I can't play it. So it seems like you know an expensive hall uh a wall hanger. What did I say? [laughter] Whatever it was, but uh a wall hanger is what I meant to say. So uh that's really cool. I love those sort of stories. Um, but yeah, you mentioned another person we love and we've had on a podcast not long ago was Mr. Kentucky himself, Nicholas Jameson. Uh, so we absolutely love his music. Uh, he's such a cool, chill guy. Um, you know, and he pull up with our [ __ ] when he came up on on the podcast back in the last year, I think it was. I lose track of time. >> Um, but the reason I raised Mr. Nicholas Jameson's because uh I love his album Peace Mountain and you guys were on that um with I Love Blue and I was giving it another listen today and I thought what a cool collaboration uh between you guys and it sounds like you're doing more which is uh you know is that something we can expect some gossip we can squeeze out of you. >> I don't know maybe. >> Well, we'll keep an eye on that and you could tell us offline. We we don't tell anybody. We haven't got loose lips. I promise. You know, >> I don't tell anybody. TJ eyes opens his mouth. >> I might tell the entire planet. Yeah. Um, but yeah, tell us about that particular collaboration. That sounds really cool. >> I'm going to tell you about that particular collaboration, but I think I should close this window or something so I can hear y'all cuz I don't know [laughter] what's happening today. >> Preferably. Go for it. Go for it. Wow, that sounds >> serious. >> Sounds scary. [laughter] >> Yeah, it does. >> This rain is sideways. >> That's ridiculous. Well, >> okay. >> It's unreal. >> Can I hear you? Can you hear me now? >> I can hear. Yeah. Yeah. >> So, how did that happen with I don't even remember how that happened. Nicholas and Ryan have been friends much longer than I've known Nick. But he's one of those people that like or more so for, you know, I don't know what I'm trying to say, but he's one of those people that I feel like I've known my entire life. Um, I couldn't tell you when we first met or how it happened or anything, but we've just we've known each other our whole lives it feels like, you know, but I've always respected his songwriting. Um, love his songs. They're just like you can hear the the holler in him. You can hear like just the the authentic parts. um again that I think that people really crave these days. And um he's just a he's he's a good brother, good friend. Um it's it's it's nice to have him in our in our pocket sometimes. That's for sure. >> Yeah, that's really cool. I mean, many people we speak to from Kentucky have him on the what do you guys call it? The I don't know the top three, you know, artists within that region or or you know, in their lives. and Nick always kind of pops up and you know we were quite privileged to have him on the show. I know he's a a proper busy guy. Um but yeah, it was great to talk to him and to to meet people that that have worked with him and you know vice versa. But you know I could waffle on about that forever but should we play a little bit of I Love Blue. Is that okay? >> Sure. >> Let's do it. Right. You heard me and [singing] I heard you. Why is that [singing] [music] what we do? Saying some [singing] things that just [music] ain't true. I tell you green [music] when I [singing] [music] Yeah, I think your two sounds blend so nicely with you can hear Nick's influence, but definitely, you know, Magnolia Boulevard's kind of sound, you know, blended with that is fantastic and one of my favorites. Um, I've got one question uh left before I hand over to Ronnie because I've been feel like I've been waffling on forever, but uh uh thanks for putting up with me. But yeah, in your experience with the industry, I'm always interested to learn because we kind of sit on the peripheral on the sidelines and we kind of look from, you know, you know, on the outside in. Um, but in in terms of what the industry needs in your opinion, is there something it's lacking or something you could do better? And if that is and you can wave a magic wand, what what would happen in your kind of opinion? >> Well, you you just want one. You just want one thing. No. >> Well, if you got more than one, then uh yeah, let's do it. Um, [clears throat] I think healthcare or something of the sorts, you know, I don't I don't think that we really, you know, artists are expect, especially musicians, you know, we're expected to just dance, monkey. It's it's it's one of those things that people aren't willing to pay you enough. And aside from that, it's like we're kind of just like out here finning for ourselves for a to make you happy and play your favorite song that you like. And um I I I think in this country, I don't know how it is over there, but it would be great if you know there was just a little bit more care for the arts overall. Um, and I think there should be women on more festival lineups. So, what was that? >> There you go. I think we can do that. Yeah, I think in the UK scene we we suffer with similar issues and there's definitely a lack of investment in the arts and but hopefully that will change. Um, and particularly with female artists. Yeah. Uh, we we hear you. We we're going to shout it loud and proud. Well, Ronnie is so uh I am. [laughter] That's what we're going to do. And we're going to do a separate podcast about it. We are. We're going to share everybody's experiences. >> Maggie is going to co-host it. Let's do it. >> Absolutely. Let's do it. >> I'm sure she agreed a minute ago. So, uh, we'll edit that column. >> Yeah. No, no, that's a no. [laughter] >> So, anyway, Ronnie, over to you, mate. >> Thank you. Right, so we've been through some deep and meaningful stuff. Uh, we're going to play a little game. Maggie, do you want to play a little game? >> Would you like to play a little game with me? >> Let's go and play a little game. TJ, hit it. [laughter] >> Play a little game, right? All right, let's do [music] Yes, [music] this is the Rugger Revival. True or false game. Uh, it's weird international law facts this evening. Weird international law facts, would you believe? Uh, I've got some random ridiculous questions to ask you. Uh, true or false. And then we will score it between you, Maggie, and you, TJ. So, I'll ask a question. I'll say, TJ, give me the answer, true or false. Maggie, give me the answer, true or false. And then we'll score it at the end. I've got to say, Maggie, TJ hasn't been doing so well on this game uh for the last year. Uh, so >> it's only rigged, Maggie. That's why. Um, >> it's it's not rigged. It It's not rigged. Get over yourself. Anyway, so uh in Singapore it's illegal to chew chewing gum. Maggie, true or false? >> I'm gonna say >> I'm going to go with true. >> False. Okay, TJ, you've just said false, so I'm going to go false. [laughter] You giving the answer away there. Question number two. In Denmark, baby first names generally need to be on approved list or approved via application. So in Denmark, baby first names generally need to be on approved list or approved via application. True or false? Maggie, >> y'all realize I've never been out of this country, right? [laughter] Uh, >> true, >> TJ. I think they're pretty liberal in Denmark. I would say false. I think you can call kids what you want. >> Okay. >> Probably. >> In Switzerland, keeping just one guinea pig alone can breach animal welfare rules because they're classed as social animals. Maggie, true or false? >> Because what? [laughter] >> It's my accent again. Ready? Uh, in Switzerland, keeping just one guinea pig alone can breach animal welfare rules because they are classed as social animals. >> They're social animals. >> False. >> Apparently. So, okay, TJ, >> I'm bad at this. I already know. I know. I am. >> No, don't worry. I feel like I'm going to win this one. Um, I'm going to go true. >> I hope so. It's been a long time. Is it okay? Uh, okay. Again, Switzerland. Oh, Switzerland's got rules. In Switzerland, it's illegal by national law to flush your toilet after 1000 p.m. True or false, Maggie? >> Flush your toilet after 1000 p.m. [clears throat] >> True. [snorts] >> TJ, I'm just going to go opposite. False. [laughter] In Venice, feeding pigeons and even seagulls can get you fined. True or false, Maggie? >> True, >> TJ. Yeah, I [ __ ] hate pigeons. I would say true. Don't feed them ever. >> Questions question. Uh, well, I don't know where we are now. In Japan, >> In Japan, it's illegal to be overweight. It's called the fat law. Is that true? Is that true or false? Baggot. [laughter] >> Oh, that's false. >> TJ. Well, if it is true, then we can't go to Japan. Ry. [laughter] No. No. >> The fact >> I want to say true. >> Yeah. Yeah. The fact you could have some laws. >> And then last question we'll do because I don't really like these questions. So, last question we'll do is TJ arrives early [laughter] at meetings and buys himself a coffee because he doesn't want to buy anybody else one. So, TJ arrives early >> at me. Yeah, I I reckon it's true. TJ, >> that's not true. I don't know where you've heard these disgusting lies, but it's not. >> Okay, quick round up. [clears throat] So, in Singapore, it's illegal to chew chewing gum. The answer is false. Chewing gum isn't the crime. Selling or importing with limited exceptions is what's restricted. Interesting. So, don't import chewing gum into Singapore. Um, in Denmark, baby first names generally need to be on approved list or approved via application. The answer is true, Maggie. You're absolutely right. >> Uh, in Switzerland, keeping just one guinea pig alone can breach animal welfare rules because they're classed as social animals. The answer is true. They must have appropriate social contact with their own species. Shocking. Uh, in Switzerland, it's illegal by national law to flush your toilet after 10 p.m. The answer is false. It's a viral myth. Some buildings may have house rules, but that's not a national law. In Venice, feeding pigeon pigeons and even seagulls can get you fined. The answer is true. So, obviously hate them. Uh, and then in Japan, it's illegal to be overweight. The fat law um that is I was going to lie then. Um, it's absolutely false. Uh, so there are health screen initiatives, but being overweight isn't a crime. And then last question, TJ arrives early at meetings just so he doesn't have to buy anybody else a drink or food. Uh, the answer is true. So Maggie, you're absolutely right. Congratulations. You have won the Rugger Revival. True or false? Weird international law facts. >> TJ, it [music] winner. I think I think we need to recheck those uh scores, Ronnie, because I've never actually checked the scores of any of these quizzes that we do. But anyway, well done, Maggie. Um you know, I don't know what you're going to do with that accolade. Add that to the rest of what you got. But yeah, >> fantastic. So Maggie, um after that, uh it's going back to a couple of serious questions if that's okay. So, okay. Um we we talk a lot on this podcast about mental health and how um how it affects people um and the best way that people find that they can deal with it. So if you wouldn't mind and please don't feel like you have to answer it um but how do you keep your own mental health in check? How do you look after yourself especially when you're on tour? Especially when everything else is going on is chaotic. Um how do you look after yourself? Oh, you know, [clears throat] I'll be 33 this year. I'm still figuring that part out. Um, to be quite honest with you. Um, but really [clears throat and cough] writing songs or journaling, that's really been a big one for me um the past couple years. It like writing songs is most definitely an outlet at this point. And I try not to put so much pressure on myself when it comes to like to like to vent to let the world know how mental mental I really am. [laughter] But um a good walk, a good walk, getting in the sunshine, being away from technology, all of those things really help me out. And I smoke a lot of weed, so there's that. >> [laughter] >> There you go. Perfect. And thank you for sharing that with us, Maggie. Um, listen, I know I know it's a it's a difficult question for some people to answer because, you know, some people do, it does affect everybody differently. Um, and please don't forget, I know I've said it so many times before, please don't forget that if anybody's listening that do need any help, anybody that needs to have a bit of support or just wants to talk, come and reach out to all of us. And I'm sure Maggie, uh, you would agree with that as well. Just reach out. just shout as loud as you can and come and speak to us. >> How sweet of you fellers. That's so great. >> It's um it's something that is very dear to us. It's very dear to my heart and it's very dear to TJ and as well. So um and we always like to put it on a on the podcast to say look if you need anything just shout. So thank you for for helping us with it Maggie for shouting that at the top of the rings. >> Um so I'm going to do another soundtrack to your life moment. We should have a little jingle. We shouldn't um soundtrack to your life. So, Maggie, what song has helped you through a tough time or a struggle or a difficult point in your life? >> I got it immediately. >> Go. >> I will not be broken by Bonnie Ra. >> Amazing. >> It's a great damn song and I've listened to that so many times. If it was a record or a CD, it would have been broken by the amount of times that I've listened to it. But it's a good one. >> I love that. Thank you. And TJ, what about you? What about you? >> I wasn't prepared for any questions, my way, so I [laughter] don't actually know. You know what? I actually love uh David Gray, Say Hello Goodbye. >> Interesting. >> Couldn't remember the title of it then. I love it that much. Um yeah, I don't know why. I think I've just listened to it over the years and it's not been my sort of music that but um I love that song and I think yeah when I've been a bit down it's good to to put it on and >> I don't know why I'm laughing [laughter] >> I don't normally get >> Yeah. Yeah. It's nervous laughter. >> It is nervous laughter. Yeah. You got too close to my bone. Uh anyway, >> but yeah, that's what I I listen to. >> Well, thank you. Anyway, back to Maggie. Uh, so, um, Maggie, I wanted to say, so the Ruger Revival, you've probably got it by now by all the stuff we've been talking about. So, the Ruger Revival started as a community, uh, and we've been pushing it as a community to to really push out artists that sometimes the UK people in the UK scene will never listen to or haven't heard or, you know, we want to we want to platform people on in this community. And sometimes, um, we've got artists in the UK, in America that that aren't heard. you know they they haven't been um shouted if you like um from from the rooftop. So um we want to give them a bit of a platform to do that. So is there anybody that you can see that is an up and cominging artist or a songr I can't even talk songwriter singer or anybody that you think that you know what I'm going to give him a shout out on this platform. Why not >> most definitely? And if not, don't worry. [laughter] >> Um, if you ain't never heard of him yet, uh, Mr. Scott T. Smith, uh, he's originally from West Virginia. He's based out of Louisville, Kentucky. He's about to do some some dates with Tyler Childers this year. And I am so proud of my brother. He's killing it. But just, you know, he would be a good one to talk about, you know, all the heartfelt things and mental health and I mean, his songwriting really just kind of exudes all of that. So, >> definitely give a shout out to that brother. >> That's brilliant. Thank you so much. And and two last questions for me, Maggie, if that's all right. So, I know that um it's a question that I've asked previously, but I find it I find it interesting some of the answers that you get. Um but I want to know why you play to people. Why do you do what you do? Why do you stand on stage? Why do you why do you play what you play? Um and when you do play what you play, what does that feel like afterwards? >> Oh, it's a really gratifying feeling. It really is. um after I kind of got over the initial um just I mean there's still so much like vulnerability when you're on stage but uh I've I've had so many people come up. I I have a song called Sister that I wrote for my best friend when I moved away from my hometown and she was going through a really really rough time and um you know I I wrote that song for her and and so many people have heard it and [clears throat] they've interpreted it and to something on their own which I think is like the most beautiful part of music. Like a song can mean so much. it can mean something so different for somebody else. And um so like for example in that what that's why I said that particular song I've had so many people come up and say you know I play this song for my baby and I played it for her every night to go to sleep or I sent this to my a strange sister of 10 years and now we have a relationship and you know whatever it is. is I just I [clears throat] feel a call to, you know, just do something for the greater good. And music can do so much, like it literally physically changes our chemical, you know, parts. And so if I have just the ability to just like make somebody feel better, you know, or have something that they can relate to, you know, I I'm I'm here for that. I I love it and it's it's it's very gratifying feeling when I get that kind of feedback, you know. >> So that >> that is um that that speechless. Uh [laughter] that is one of the best dancers I've had. And um let me tell you, anybody that's listening to this needs to go and listen to your music if they haven't heard you already uh and the band because that's what it makes you feel like. It gives you them tingles. It changes the way you see things and the way you think about things and you can picture a lot of the songs and that for me absolutely hits it on the head. So thank you for sharing that with us and I'm going to hand over to TJ. >> So Maggie, um yeah, interesting to learn everything that you've just discussed with Ronnie. That was That's fantastic. Um, but the next part of the podcast, uh, are you ready to play another game? I know the first one was incredible. I don't know if I can top Ronny's game, but would you like to have my game? >> Fantastic. I'm here for it. >> Well, it's called the Rugged Revival Kiss game, and don't be panicked by that. Uh, so instead I mean I've played played we played this a few times now and I've explained it a few times and I think rather than me explaining it in like the terrible way that I tend to do, I've got a instructional video uh an example. So let's watch that first and then you can decide whether you want to play or not. Okay, let's go. >> Okay, I'm in the room with artists. Do you have to warm your vocal cords anyway? Let's go. Go on. [music] >> Timing's off again, mate. [laughter] It's your timing that's the problem. >> I like how you did the freeze frame, too. [laughter] >> Yeah. >> So, Alex, are you ready, mate? No pressure. >> I'm ready. >> Okay. After three. One, two, [laughter] [laughter] >> I am hoping that explained the game. So, okay. Yeah, I'm not going to go into explaining because that was the whole point of showing you that, but it's about accuracy and being as close to the original of the opening of Prince as possible. So would you like to hear the original first to kind of get an understanding of, you know, the pitch, the timber, and you're obviously a professional. You know, I smashed it. I'm not a professional, but I I probably was 10 out of 10, but would you like to hear the original first and then have a go at it? You'll be our first female artist to have a go. >> So, uh, you've got that accolade as well, right? Let me find it. >> Where does the kiss part of this come? Oh, because it's the song, dumbass. Okay, go ahead. Sorry. [laughter] I say nothing. Here's the original. You know, it's um [laughter] >> Oh, God. >> It's not easy, Maggie. It's like so many artists have failed. Um but you could be the one to show them. >> So, would you like one more listen and uh go into it or are you ready to go into it now? >> I'm ready. Let's go. Put me in coach. >> Wow. Let's do it. Right. I'm going to press play now. Oh no. Sorry. Hold on. >> That was me. [laughter] >> Oh [ __ ] >> Wrong one. That was me. >> 10 out of 10. >> It's even better. >> That sounded uh sexual. Anyway, right. Let's do the proper one. Are you ready? >> Mhm. >> Oh yeah. >> [laughter] >> You added your own spin to that. >> If I can do it again. Let's go. >> Would you like to do a proper one? All right. >> Do a proper one. A more appropriate one. >> All right. I'm going to press play now. >> There's a lag. >> That's not [clears throat] That's not far off. >> There was a lag. There's a lag. There's a slight lag, but uh I can stitch that and I'll I'll think I need to autotune it, you know. I think that was pretty pretty damn good. >> Pretty good. Yeah. >> Yeah. Well done, Maggie. Well done. And thank you for playing. You're the first female artist to have a go at that. [laughter] >> But you're better than Alex. I mean, look at Alex. That was weird. I'll be honest. That freaked me out a little bit uh with his his attempt. >> But anyway, right. Anyway, moving on to more serious things. You'd be pleased to know we've only got a few more questions for you. Uh, and thanks for putting up with us. But, uh, but yeah, I I always ask the artists, you know, because we're just selfish people and we want to see you play live and we're too lazy to go out to the US and I don't like flying. So, would you fly to the UK to play for me and Ronnie? Not personally, but like at a venue in general, you know, would you love to come over and um tour the UK? >> Oh, totally. I would absolutely love to get out of the US, period. Fantastic. And uh have you got any plans? I know it's very difficult when you got a young family and you know is there any discussions about that down the line or how that might even look like? >> No, I mean we've definitely talked about it and you know it's it's definitely like a goal of ours. Um but again it's just it's going to take the right time and the right amount of money to fly us all over there. So >> yeah. Well, let's try and make that happen. And um yeah, when you do come over, bring your British accent with you. We'll go down the pub and we'll uh we'll buy you a pint of Guinness or I don't know. What do you drink, Maggie? Or don't you drink? >> Um I So I like a IPA or a hazy IPA. >> Classy. >> I I wish I like Guinness, but I feel like if I were to go there, I'd have to have the proper Guinness, a pint of Guinness just to to go along with it. Did I do Okay. You did. That was very good. I didn't even notice. That was so good. >> See, I could [laughter] I could blend right in. Nobody. Yeah, you could. Yeah. You have to wear a top hat when you come over, though, so you really blend in. That's that's what we wear. >> Thank you for your service. Yeah. Thank you. >> So, let's make that happen. Anyway, but um but yeah, in terms of what you've got going on for the the rest of the year, you kind of give us a little tidbit about, you know, working with Nick Jameson and perhaps having some new music and tidbit. >> Tidbit. I don't even know what that means. It sounded good. Um, but what what are you doing next? You know, for the rest of the year and, you know, what's going on in your world? >> Um, [clears throat] we're just going to be pushing, you know, we we put out our, like you kind of touched base on earlier, we put out our very first fulllength record uh this past November. So, plan is now is just to keep pushing our music, keep selling that record, and we're just hopping around over here on in the in the US. We're going to be going to the West Coast three times this year, which seems a little insane, but we love it. Um, and and lots of lots of things in between. Lots of tour dates, rather. If you ask me >> one particular one right now, I probably couldn't tell you without having to [laughter] refer to Master Tour or the Google calendar. But, um, it's it's going to be fun. It's going to be a good year. I've been saying it since the start of the year. I'm like, I can feel it. This is going to be a great year for us. So, keep that mindset and >> keep pushing, keep on trucking. >> Awesome. And obviously go visit your website because that has all of the details on it, too. So, that was at www.mmagnolabard.com. >> Magnolia Boulevard.com. >> Well, I got that wrong. So, there you go. Go and visit the website because that has all of the details on it. But, you know, what you've just said there, I love that. you know, looking uh positive and to the, you know, the future and the good times. And, you know, I actually wrote this down for the last kind of soundtrack to your life. And I think if there was a song that kind of defined you as a person right now and, you know, for your positivity for the rest of the year, uh, what might it be? It could be absolutely anything. Hm. Is it like really vain of me to write to say one of our songs? >> Nope. Nope. >> So Ryan again, Ryan uh Best Buddy, keyboard player in our band. Uh he actually co-wrote a song, the song Anything that's on our album. And it became somewhat of a mantra for me when he first sent it. And I just think it's a really good reminder, you know, [clears throat] we we can do big things. We can we can accomplish our goals. Um sometimes we just need to like reset and uh and not do anything but sleep and take care of our bodies and rest. And uh I think that's a good reminder. I think like the past year for me, I've just been in go- go mode. And so that's a good reminder for myself. >> Superb. I think that's a lovely way to to wrap it up and um yeah, to get to know you properly. We've got to know all about your life, Maggie, and you've shared so much with us. Um you've trusted me and Ronnie with so much about you. So [laughter] well done and thank you. But over to you, Ronnie, to do what we going to call it? Is it Last Orders now? Last >> Orders. Yeah. >> Peggy Mitchell. >> Oh yeah, Peggy. Let's uh >> get out of my pub. So, uh, anyway, so get out of my pub. I do the bit called last orders. We used to call it the final message, but I didn't like that. Uh, and TJ and I have agreed that bit, yeah, final. It's all final terminal. Anyway, uh, so we now call it last orders at the bar, please. So, um, this is where I get to tell you all the lovely quotes and the nice messages that people have been leaving you across all social media. But I'm going to end in some of the comments that we've that I've built on tonight for about what you said. So, the first part is around uh woman power. Absolutely. We're going to do a separate podcast and I really want you to co-host it with us. Uh and it'll be amazing. We'll have all the female artists on. I think it would be amazing. Um Maggie, you are an absolute musical powerhouse and the band is absolutely unbelievable. Uh I have listened to your music and TJ, we've we've said exactly the same thing of how incredible your music is and it really does send shivers in a good way up your spine. uh because you're you're all so talented. Um it's been wild, chaotic. We've had tornado warnings, we've had cats, we've had kids, uh and we've um also expressed all of our love for everything. Uh and you know what? You've been absolutely incredible. It has been an absolute pleasure to have you on the Ruger Revival podcast with us tonight. Um, and if you've got a drink nearby somewhere, um, if you can grab a drink and raise it up for us, we'll do the last bit where we raise a toast. To the grit, the grind, and to the revival. Cheers to everyone for listening. And thank you again, Maggie, for being just you. You're amazing. Thanks very much. >> Thank you guys. You've been so kind, so sweet. Cheers to you. >> Cheers to you. Cheers.

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